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Surname Morreale

Postby Sally Ann Whalen » 15 Apr 2014, 23:29

My grandfather was born in Grotte Girgenti in 1886 his name was Vincenzo Morreale
He sailed from Palermo in 1907. I would like to find out if I have any relatives
In his place of birth or Ralcamuto where one of my cousins thinks my great great
Grandfather ( no information ) was buried. Saw

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby erudita74 » 15 Apr 2014, 23:53

Sally Ann Whalen wrote:My grandfather was born in Grotte Girgenti in 1886 his name was Vincenzo Morreale
He sailed from Palermo in 1907. I would like to find out if I have any relatives
In his place of birth or Ralcamuto where one of my cousins thinks my great great
Grandfather ( no information ) was buried. Saw



you might see if there is anyone listed in the Italian phonebook to whom you could write, but you will only find names for people with land lines

http://www.paginebianche.it/index_en.html-

to help with letters in Italian-

http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... etter.html

Or you might try to connect with potential relatives through something like Facebook

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby Sally Ann Whalen » 16 Apr 2014, 00:21

Thank you my cousins are on Facebook and tried that.
I spoke to the Italian Consulate in NYC and they said
To write the mayor of the town but I don't know
Which town to write to. Grotte or Racalmuto

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby erudita74 » 16 Apr 2014, 01:32

There's a mailing address, phone number, and fax number for the town of Grotte at the following link
http://www.grotte.info/ag/comune.htm

the second link shows you the name of the mayor but currently there is no email address for him given

http://www.grotte.info/ag/sindaco.htm


For Racalmuto, you might try the general email address below. The email given for the town's mayor is a pec address, is for official govt use only, and your email will be returned as undeliverable

http://www.comune.racalmuto.ag.it/cms/h ... almuto.htm

info@comune.racalmuto.ag.it


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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby Sally Ann Whalen » 17 Apr 2014, 03:31

Thank you I will let you know how I make out

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby Sally Ann Whalen » 17 Apr 2014, 03:33

Thank you I will let you know how I make out
Oh can I write in English?

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Postby erudita74 » 17 Apr 2014, 04:15

Sally Ann Whalen wrote:Thank you I will let you know how I make out
Oh can I write in English?



Best to write in Italian, as your letter or email could end up in the hands of a clerk who doesn't know English.
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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby Sally Ann Whalen » 17 Apr 2014, 22:44

Ok. Now where can I send my request in English to be written in Italian ?

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby rp76226 » 19 Apr 2014, 17:07

I use Google Translate - http://translate.google.com/

There are others (Babblefish, etc. - just Google the word translate).

If you find any of your relatives married a "Puma", please let me know as mine came from Racalmuto too. Use the following website to find more ancestors - https://familysearch.org/s/collection/l ... Id=1927178 Look under the links for the province of Agrigento, then pick the town. Note that most of these records have an index for each year located on the last few pages of records for that year. The records that use pre-printed forms are easiest to follow but even the totally handwritten forms generally utilize a common format. The following link has examples of record formats, where to look, and key word translations - http://www.myfamily.com/share?s=hVEGMgZ6aIroHLOJaQVMIg It also has handwriting examples which are useful because Italian handwriting can be brutal to interpret the handwritten letters of words.

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby rp76226 » 19 Apr 2014, 17:50

I think this is his birth record - http://postimg.org/image/vssks2hq1/ Record # 318. It reads - Vincenzo Morreale, a boy, was born on the 19th of June, 1886 at 4 Ziabetta Street in Racalmuto to parents Giuseppe Morreale, age 30, profession - trafficker (dealer/merchant) and Filippa Cino, his wife. If you know your grandfather's exact birth date, this would confirm that this is him and not possibly a cousin named after a common grandfather.

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby Sally Ann Whalen » 21 Apr 2014, 21:06

Thank you I will check with my cousins

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby Sally Ann Whalen » 21 Apr 2014, 21:13

OMG I can't thank you enough my cousins in Boston confirmed all this info.
Is there any way you have the time to find out if we have any relative alive?
I plan on visiting later this year and would love to contact anyone from my
Grandfathers family.

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby rp76226 » 21 Apr 2014, 21:47

Finding records of living relatives is nearly impossible due to government privacy laws. Usually there is a 75 to 100 year waiting period before the records are allowed to go public. You need luck - such as a person with another family tree finding you and it happens to be a match of the relatives you want and they are related to that relative. Facebook searches can sometimes work, but usually too many people have the same name or the surname has changed due to marriage (though Italian women keep their maiden names, but their children will take on the surname of their father).

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby Sally Ann Whalen » 22 Apr 2014, 20:28

Thank you, do you think it is worth it to contact one of the sites
That research it for a small fee? Or will they hit the same road
Block with sealed records?

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Re: Surname Morreale

Postby rp76226 » 23 Apr 2014, 00:13

I think you would be wasting your time and money trying to pay someone to find live relatives. I would try going to Facebook - "Find Friends" and put the last name and the name of the town to see who comes up. Then try contacting them with a pre-written Italian paragraph of how you are trying to find relatives. It's a long shot, but it may be your best shot.


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