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need help translating a birth record

Postby carmenvalenziano » 11 May 2014, 13:46

i need help translating a birth record

#33
Marianna Calefato

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 3.jpg.html

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 4.jpg.html

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Postby carmenvalenziano » 11 May 2014, 14:51



#809
Filomena Calefato

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 4.jpg.html

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Postby liviomoreno » 11 May 2014, 15:38

carmenvalenziano wrote:i need help translating a birth record

#33
Marianna Calefato

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 3.jpg.html

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 4.jpg.html

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Marianna Calefato was born 19 December 1853 to Vincenzo, aged 33, coachman and to Donata Tito, aged 30. She was baptized the same day.
On Sept 4 1880 she married, in Trani, she married Giuseppe Valenziano son of the deceased Antonio
On April 3 1911 she married, in Trani, Pietro Marzilli

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Postby liviomoreno » 11 May 2014, 15:52

Here are the documents attached (Allegati) to the marriage record for Giuseppe Valenziano and Marianna Calefato https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,348758001

They include the births extract of Giuseppe and of Marianna and the certification that the banns were posted.

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Postby liviomoreno » 11 May 2014, 16:00

carmenvalenziano wrote:

#809
Filomena Calefato

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 4.jpg.html

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Filomena Calefato was born 9 November 1856 to Vincenzo, aged 36, coachman and to Donata Vito, aged 34. She was baptized the same day.

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Postby carmenvalenziano » 11 May 2014, 16:11

thank you liviomoreno

that was a lot of pages on the marriage

did it by any chance say who marianna's grandparents were or when her parents got married?

i cannot find anything on vincenzo calefato or his wife donata tito

i found a birth for maria nicola calefato in 1850 - says her mother is donata tito and her father is nicola vincenzo calefato

i have him born about 1820 and donata born about 1823 and a marriage date about 1843

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Postby adelfio » 11 May 2014, 16:50

Marriage of Vincenzo Nicola Calefato and Maria Teresa Tito
INDEX#84
1842 July 21st in the town of Trani marriage of Vincenzo Nicola Calefato age 21 born in Trani Sept 17 1820 son of Michelangelo Calefato and Maria Nicola Martinelli married Maria Teresa Tito age 17 born in Trani May 31 1825 daughter of Vincenzo Tito and Marianna Barone

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Postby liviomoreno » 11 May 2014, 16:59

carmenvalenziano wrote:thank you liviomoreno

that was a lot of pages on the marriage

did it by any chance say who marianna's grandparents were or when her parents got married?

i cannot find anything on vincenzo calefato or his wife donata tito

i found a birth for maria nicola calefato in 1850 - says her mother is donata tito and her father is nicola vincenzo calefato

i have him born about 1820 and donata born about 1823 and a marriage date about 1843

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The marriage record itself is NOT there. The Allegati are the documents that were presented to get married, and as I said they included the birth extracts of Giuseppe and Marianna. A birth extract is the full transcription of the births record and the baptism record, each of them is two pages. There are no additional information about Marianna's grandparents or parents' marriage.

It is very likely that the Maria Nicola born in 1850 is a sister of Marianna.

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Postby liviomoreno » 11 May 2014, 17:04

adelfio wrote:Marriage of Vincenzo Nicola Calefato and Maria Teresa Tito
INDEX#84
1842 July 21st in the town of Trani marriage of Vincenzo Nicola Calefato age 21 born in Trani Sept 17 1820 son of Michelangelo Calefato and Maria Nicola Martinelli married Maria Teresa Tito age 17 born in Trani May 31 1825 daughter of Vincenzo Tito and Marianna Barone

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http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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The marriage was celebrated on August 5 (see right column).

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Postby carmenvalenziano » 11 May 2014, 18:25

thank you marty and liviomoreno

i went through births from 1843 to 1852 could not find anything

just found this one

#188
cannot read baby's name

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 4.jpg.html

the names of marianna and maria nicola fit in with the marriage

trying to find children with the name of michaelangelo and vincenzo

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Postby liviomoreno » 11 May 2014, 18:50

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Postby carmenvalenziano » 11 May 2014, 18:53

is that a boy or a girl?

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Postby carmenvalenziano » 11 May 2014, 18:57

here's #317

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 0.jpg.html

does it say nicola vincenzo calefato is the son of michaelangelo?

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Postby carmenvalenziano » 11 May 2014, 20:14

is this donata's death record - please translate

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,348742301

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Postby adelfio » 11 May 2014, 20:37

carmenvalenziano wrote:here's #317

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 0.jpg.html

does it say nicola vincenzo calefato is the son of michaelangelo?

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Yes it is son of deceased Michelangelo Calefato
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