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Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby elsantoro » 17 May 2014, 18:22

To my Father's best recollection, his Mother's maiden name was Seroti - but he knows that is not the correct spelling. He's 98 and has never seen it written down. He says it was a common Italian name.

She was born about 1902 on a ship en route to New York, that's all we know about her beginning.

At about 13 she married Pasquale Santoro in Ravenna, OH. I found his name on a passenger list and he was from Vieste, Foggia so her family may have been from there too. Pasquale died in 1918 and that left her a 16 year old widow so she changed her name to Mildred to sound more "American" and we don't know her original name. For a while she used her Stepfather's last name Artinio (also a guess on spelling).

Any ideas?
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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby suanj » 17 May 2014, 18:59

Hi,
maybe this record could be helpful, seeming the marriage of Mildred mother with Mildred stepfather:

Serotti in entry for Artino Antonino and Rozina Serotti, "Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-1994"
Name: Artino Antonino (viceversa: Antonino ARTINO)
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Feb 1913
Event Place: Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States
Age: 38
Birth Date:
Birth Year (Estimated): 1875
Birthplace: Italy
Father's Name: Salvatore
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name: Maria Ritti
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Name: Rozina Serotti
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Age: 33
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1880
Spouse's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Father's Name: Salvatore Lettori
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name: Giuseppe Gierma
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Reference ID: 84740
GS Film Number: 886228
Digital Folder Number: 004016972
Image Number: 00274


the all name's spelling are bit wrong... I wish to search better...
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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby elsantoro » 17 May 2014, 19:20

That helps tremendously! Thank you! I have searched and searched and found nothing!
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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby suanj » 17 May 2014, 21:54

I believe that Antonino ( aka Tony) Artino was sicilian... nothing abt birthplace on this record:

Tony Artino, "United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918"
Name: Tony Artino
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1917-1918
Event Place: Cleveland City no 9, Ohio, United States
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 Aug 1876
Birthplace: , ,
Nationality: Italy
Affiliate Publication Title: World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards
Affiliate Publication Number: M1509
GS Film number: 1831770
Digital Folder Number: 005253677
Image Number: 04685

wife Rose...

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1968530
I believe that also Rose/Rozina was sicilian.. of Messina area.... the surname of her first husband could be SIROTI...
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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby elsantoro » 17 May 2014, 23:03

Thank you AGAIN! I came up blank again in more searches after your last post and this gives me another lead! I believe their port of passage was San Francisco. I remember hearing that Mildred was born on a ship between Italy and San Francisco and the only record I found for her later in life in a census listed her birth place as "California". I am hoping to find a passenger list that would list her as "baby" and possibly her original name.
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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby elsantoro » 17 May 2014, 23:14

I found a Census record for Tony and Rose and it lists a daughter, Malia age 10 in 1910. This might be Mildred! The age could be wrong or she could have fibbed about it later in life. This gives me a new direction to search.
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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby adelfio » 18 May 2014, 01:50

I believe possibility Antonino Artino was born in Alcara li Fusi, Messina

PG LINK TO SHIPMANIFEST LINE #30
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030

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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby elsantoro » 18 May 2014, 03:40

Thank you for your help in this search. It's been tough with all of the misspellings. I'm trying to figure out what the correct names are as census and other record keepers seemed to just write their best guess and I don't believe my relatives spoke English.
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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby suanj » 18 May 2014, 07:06

elsantoro wrote:I found a Census record for Tony and Rose and it lists a daughter, Malia age 10 in 1910. This might be Mildred! The age could be wrong or she could have fibbed about it later in life. This gives me a new direction to search.

Rose married at Tony Artino just in 1913... so the 1910 census that you found cannot be abt right Mildred...
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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby suanj » 18 May 2014, 11:13

I found Mildred marriage record:

Millie Artena Sirotti, "Ohio, Marriages, 1800-1958"

Name: Patsy Santoro
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Italy
Age:
Spouse's Name: Millie Artena Sirotti
Spouse's Birth Date: 1899
Spouse's Birthplace: San Francisco, Calif.
Spouse's Age: 16
Event Date: 20 Mar 1915
Event Place: Portage, Ohio
Father's Name: Tony Santoro
Mother's Name: Mary Russ
Spouse's Father's Name: Memcio Serrotti (.... Siroti??)
Spouse's Mother's Name: Rosie Liton (Rosa Lettori?? Latorre???)

Race:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M86985-9
System Origin: Ohio-VR
GS Film number: 0891367
Reference ID: 2:3KSZH80

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1614804

and...
another marriage no solemnized..
Millie Sirotte, "Ohio, Marriages, 1800-1958"

Name: Charley Angelo
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Italy
Age:
Spouse's Name: Millie Sirotte
Spouse's Birth Date: 1898
Spouse's Birthplace: San Francisco, Cal.

Spouse's Age: 16
Event Date: 06 Jul 1914
Event Place: Cuyahoga, Ohio
Father's Name: Nicolo
Mother's Name: Teresa Loranno
Spouse's Father's Name: Antonio
Spouse's Mother's Name: Rosa Letore
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M86889-7
System Origin: Ohio-VR
GS Film number: 0886231
Reference ID: 2:3S82D65

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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby johnnyonthespot » 18 May 2014, 13:31

Are you certain about her "southern Italy" origins?

Try variations of the surname spelling here http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo- ... 3iZjCgpeno and you can see that the likely candidates are primarily central/northern in present-day Italy.
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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby Biff83 » 18 May 2014, 16:18

On Mildred's 1915 marriage record to Patsy Santoro, consent was given by a Luigi Lopriore who stated she was his ward. Another clue?

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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby Biff83 » 18 May 2014, 17:43

Pasquale "Patsy" Santoro death certificate

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1307272

Ohio Military Men, 1917-18
Name:
Pasquale Santoro
Serial Number:
3852571
Race:
W
Residence:
629 Meridian St., Ravenna, O.
Enlistment Division:
National Army
Enlistment Location:
Ravenna, O.
Enlistment Date:
3 Sep 1918
Birth Place:
Viesti, Froggia, Italy
Birth Date / Age:
6 Jan 1895
Assigns Comment:
35 Co 9 Training Battalion 158 Depot Brigade to 30 Sept 1918; Headquarters Company 158 Depot Brigade to death. Private Died of broncho pneumonia 6 Oct 1918. Notified Dan Fasano, friend, 630 S. Prospect, Ravenna, O.

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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby elsantoro » 18 May 2014, 20:50

suanj wrote:
elsantoro wrote:I found a Census record for Tony and Rose and it lists a daughter, Malia age 10 in 1910. This might be Mildred! The age could be wrong or she could have fibbed about it later in life. This gives me a new direction to search.

Rose married at Tony Artino just in 1913... so the 1910 census that you found cannot be abt right Mildred...
regards,
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Oh, good eye you are right! Thank you I will take that out of the tree.
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Re: Need help figuring out S. Italy surname

Postby elsantoro » 18 May 2014, 20:51

Oh you FOUND IT!!! I can't wait to show this to my Dad!


suanj wrote:I found Mildred marriage record:

Millie Artena Sirotti, "Ohio, Marriages, 1800-1958"

Name: Patsy Santoro
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Italy
Age:
Spouse's Name: Millie Artena Sirotti
Spouse's Birth Date: 1899
Spouse's Birthplace: San Francisco, Calif.
Spouse's Age: 16
Event Date: 20 Mar 1915
Event Place: Portage, Ohio
Father's Name: Tony Santoro
Mother's Name: Mary Russ
Spouse's Father's Name: Memcio Serrotti (.... Siroti??)
Spouse's Mother's Name: Rosie Liton (Rosa Lettori?? Latorre???)

Race:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M86985-9
System Origin: Ohio-VR
GS Film number: 0891367
Reference ID: 2:3KSZH80

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1614804

and...
another marriage no solemnized..
Millie Sirotte, "Ohio, Marriages, 1800-1958"

Name: Charley Angelo
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Italy
Age:
Spouse's Name: Millie Sirotte
Spouse's Birth Date: 1898
Spouse's Birthplace: San Francisco, Cal.

Spouse's Age: 16
Event Date: 06 Jul 1914
Event Place: Cuyahoga, Ohio
Father's Name: Nicolo
Mother's Name: Teresa Loranno
Spouse's Father's Name: Antonio
Spouse's Mother's Name: Rosa Letore
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M86889-7
System Origin: Ohio-VR
GS Film number: 0886231
Reference ID: 2:3S82D65

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1614804

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