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Antonina Cicero

Postby mcvega » 26 May 2014, 02:07

While I was in Sicily I met Antonina Cicero, she was born November of 1925. Her father, Salvatore Cicero died when he was 45 years old and born abt 1892. She says she is my third cousin twice removed. She has a sister named Maria and two brothers, antonino and Ignazio. Her mother's name is Caterina Arcuri.
Her grandfather was Ignazio Cicero. I was hoping you could find one of these people so I could trace it back and connect it to my family tree. She said Maria Rosa Cicero was her father's sister but I don't show Salvatore being married to Angela Biamonte. Could I have the wrong Salvatore? Please help.
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BIRTH RECORD OF SALVATORE CICERO

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 26 May 2014, 10:18

Hi again

BIRTH RECORD INDEX 105: SALVATORE CICERO - son of Ignazio Cicero
Record is dated 11 May 1892 at 11.30 a.m. Cianciana.
Appearing is Ignazio Cicero, aged 38, living in Cianciano to declare that at 9 a.m. on 9 May 1892 at Via Salita Carmelo – no number, his wife Grazia Bavuso, Cucitrice (Seamstress) gave birth to a male child to be given the name Salvatore.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349478002

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Re: Antonina Cicero

Postby mcvega » 26 May 2014, 21:27

Ok my head is spinning. I am so confused, I noticed when I checked my notes that it was her grandfather whose sister was Maria Rosa Cicero. Maria Rosa Cicero was born any 1856 and Ignazio Cicero was born abt 1854. I think it is possible, they could be siblings, as the ones I show were born 1848, 1852, 1856, and 1858. I am hoping you may be able to find a birth record for Ignazio Cicero showing who his parents are.
You are greatly appreciated and thank You

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IGNAZIO CICERO

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 26 May 2014, 22:42

mcvega wrote:Ok my head is spinning. I am so confused, I noticed when I checked my notes that it was her grandfather whose sister was Maria Rosa Cicero. Maria Rosa Cicero was born any 1856 and Ignazio Cicero was born abt 1854. I think it is possible, they could be siblings, as the ones I show were born 1848, 1852, 1856, and 1858. I am hoping you may be able to find a birth record for Ignazio Cicero showing who his parents are. You are greatly appreciated and thank You


You are very welcome. Unfortunately I can't look for a birth record for Ignazio because I don't have access to any records for Cianciana prior to 1862. I am currently looking for a marriage record for Ignazio and Grazia which should provide information about their respective parents. In my travels I have located, so far, one other child born to Ignazio and Grazia in 1889 named Bernardo. (He died April 1966) I will post that record later for you.

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MARRIAGE RECORD: IGNAZIO CICERO E GRAZIA BARUSO

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 27 May 2014, 00:15

MARRIAGE RECORD: INDEX 17 IGNAZIO CICERO E GRAZIA BARUSO

Record is dated 26 September 1879 at 4 p.m. In Cianciana.

Appearing are:
Ignazio Cicero, unmarried man, aged 25 (1854), possibly cuoaio? (Leather seller, Saddler) but looks like crivaio​? , born and living Cianciano, son of Bernardo, living in Cianciano and​ the deceased Serafina Gagliano.

Grazia Bavuso, unmarried woman, aged 18 (1861), Filatrice (Cotton spinner, Seamstress), born and living in Cianciana, daughter of Salvatore Bavuso and Giuseppa Martorana both living in Cianciana.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... c=M9S6-YPY

So, Ignazio's parents were Bernardo Cicero and Serafina Gagliano who was deceased at time of marriage.

I'll be back with Maria Rosa's marriage record shortly. Just need to check something.

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MARRIAGE RECORD GAETANO ARCURI AND MARIA ROSA CICERO

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 27 May 2014, 00:52

Just a quick translation:

MARRIAGE RECORD: INDEX 34 GAETANO ARCURI E MARIA ROSA CICERO

Record is dated 20 July 1882 at 11.40 a.m. in Cianciana

Appearing are:
Gaetano Arcuri, widower, aged 34, ferraio (blacksmith), born and living Cianciana, son of the late Filippo Arcuri and Antonia Sedita living in Cianciana.

Maria Rosa Cicero, unmarried woman, aged 18(1864), cucitrice (seamstress), born and living in Cianciana, daughter of Bernardo living Cianciana and the late Serafina Gagliano.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... c=M9S6-YPY

I wouldn't be too concerned about the discrepancy relating to birth year of Maria Rosa. Obviously there is an error somewhere along the way. You could have a little look through the births and see if you can find her record. They start here at 1862:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349476602

Just keep turning the pages until you come to 1864. You may find siblings along the way. I haven't time at the moment to do this. They are very clear images. Just post here for translation if you find her record and there will always be someone happy to help. :D

Angela

P.S. With these particular birth records you will notice there are two columns. On he left hand side is the Birth Record and on the right hand side is the Baptism record. To find the child's name you can either look half way down on the right hand side (Baptism) or scroll right down to the bottom and the child's name will be there on the left hand side (Birth Record). Let me know if you have any problems. Good luck. (It's fun and adventurous :) )

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Re: Antonina Cicero

Postby mcvega » 27 May 2014, 01:21

Thank You, this is so helpful. I will start looking and I will take my time so I won't miss anything.
I think this is finally coming together.

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Re: Antonina Cicero

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 27 May 2014, 01:28

mcvega wrote:Thank You, this is so helpful. I will start looking and I will take my time so I won't miss anything.
I think this is finally coming together.


Fantastic! :D So good to hear. Just come back to the forum if you need any help. Haven't forgotten about Bernardo's birth record. Will post later.

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BERNARDO CICERO - BIRTH RECORD

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 27 May 2014, 02:16

BIRTH RECORD INDEX 144: BERNARDO CICERO

Record is dated 30 July 1889 at 9.40 a.m. in Cianciana.

Appearing is Ignazio Cicero, aged 35, Cuoaio? (Saddler, Leather seller), living in Cianciana to declare that at 3 p.m. on 29 July at No 20 Salita Carmelo, his wife Grazia Bavuso, Cucitrice (Seamstress), delivered a male baby to be named Bernardo.

Side Note: I think it is saying that he died on 14 April 1866 in Cattolica Eraclea, Agrigento.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349478002

So we know that Ignazio and Grazia were married 26 September 1879 and I have only managed to find Bernardo (born 1889) and Salvatore (born 1892) so I'm guessing they had children between 1880 and 1886, records for which you would find right at the end of the records you are currently looking through. I'll have a relook at the records I've been looking through to be certain though.

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Death Records: Salvatore Bavuso and Ignazio Cicero

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 27 May 2014, 11:10

DEATH RECORD INDEX 135 – SALVATORE BAVUSO VOLPE

Record is dated 26 September 1907 at 11 a.m. Cianciana.
Salvatore Bavuso Volpe, aged 70 (1837), calzolaio (shoemaker, cobbler), living and born in Cianciana, son of deceased Luigi and deceased Grazia Antinoro, widower of Giuseppa Martorana, died yesterday (25 September 1907) at 6 p.m. Address: Via De Michele – no number given.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349481401

Not sure about the Bavuso Volpe name given here - maybe Volpe (which incidentally means Fox) was omitted on the other records found here? Not sure, sorry.


DEATH RECORD NO 37 – IGNAZIO CICERO

Record is dated 27 February 1908 at 10.15 a.m. Cianciana.
Ignazio Cicero, aged 50, Crivaio?, living and born in Cianciana, son of Bernardo, Crivaio?, living in Cianciana and the late Serafina Gagliano, husband of Grazia Bavuso died at 4 p.m. yesterday (26 February 1908). Address: Salita Carmelo – number not given.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349481401

So it would seem that Ignazio was outlived by his dad. I have found a death record for a Bernardo Cicero who died the following year. It could possibly be Ignazio's father, the only catch is that the wife mentioned on it isn't Serafina Gagliano? It is possible Bernardo remarried and they only recorded the second wife on the death record??? Not sure :? I shall ponder on....

Angela

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Re: Antonina Cicero

Postby mcvega » 27 May 2014, 17:38

Thank you, this has helped me make the connection. I am still going through the names and trying to organize things to put in my tree while still trying to live a normal life, LOL.
Thank you so much
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Re: Antonina Cicero

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 27 May 2014, 20:43

mcvega wrote:Thank you, this has helped me make the connection. I am still going through the names and trying to organize things to put in my tree while still trying to live a normal life, LOL.
Thank you so much
Dolly


You are very welcome Dolly. :D I am still pondering...

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DEATH RECORD SERAFINA GAGLIANO

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 27 May 2014, 21:41

DEATH RECORD NO 9 – SERAFINA GAGLIANO

The record is dated 5 February 1878 at 11 a.m. Cianciana.
Serafina Gagliano, aged 48 (1830), filatrice (seamstress), born and living in Cianciana, daughter of the late Ignazio Gagliano and the late Rosa Lombardo, wife of Bernardo Cicero, died yesterday (4 February 1878) at 2 p.m. The address: No 53 Via Salita Piazza.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349480701

So two more names to add to your tree, Serafina's parents: Rosa Lombardo and Ignazio Gagliano.

So now I know when Serafina died, I just need to establish whether Bernardo remarried a Carmela Lombardo and if he did then the 1909 death record I have located for a Bernardo Cicero would belong to him which would confirm his parents names and take you back further. I'll try and look into this later as I need to go out for the rest of the day. :D

Angela

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Re: Antonina Cicero

Postby mcvega » 28 May 2014, 00:40

Thank You again. Since the Sicilians use the same names generation after generation it does get very confusing. My grandfather's first cousin had the exact same name and was born in the same year, so I have learned to be a little more cautious, as you already know. I really appreciate all your help.

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Re: Antonina Cicero

Postby carubia » 28 May 2014, 03:56

The reason why they used the same names is that the naming convention was to name the first 2 boys and 2 girls after their grandparents. After that the parents had more freedom,but they tended to name other kids after the parents' siblings. One result of this is that a lot of first cousins had the same names, since they shared the same grandparents.


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