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Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby rp76226 » 09 Jun 2014, 21:18

Has anyone compiled an organized list of the index pages (by "image" number) for the Italian digitalized records on Familysearch.org (https://familysearch.org/s/collection/l ... Id=1927178)? That would save a lot of time trying to find ancestors.
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Re: Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby Italysearcher » 09 Jun 2014, 22:33

There is often an annual index at the end of each year. They are easy to spot once you know what you are looking for.
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Re: Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby rp76226 » 09 Jun 2014, 22:50

I know that. It is a very slow and tedious process to find them.
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Re: Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby johnnyonthespot » 10 Jun 2014, 00:06

And sometimes a 10-year index at the end of each decade.

Speaking of 10 years, the availability of records is changing at a pretty rapid pace right now. FamilySearch.org is getting more and more records scanned and online in image format and their transcribed data is improving as well. Unfortunately, the availability of records varies widely from just a few decades for some comuni and 5, 10 or more decades for others.

Slowly coming to the rescue are some of Italy's state archives which are bringing their own records online. In 10 years time, you will find your research quite a bit easier.
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Re: Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby rp76226 » 10 Jun 2014, 00:41

The state archives interest me. I found two good state sites - http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/?q=gallery and also http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... o+di+Bari/
Do you know of any more state sites? Some towns (most in Sicily) that I'd like to find state sites for include - Petralia Soprano (Mormon digitalized site is missing 20 years of death records 1860s-1880s), Polizzi Generosa, Racalmuto, Cerda, Corleone, Pago Veiano, Rotello, Collesano, and Bagheria,
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Re: Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby carubia » 10 Jun 2014, 03:26

johnnyonthespot wrote:FamilySearch.org is getting more and more records scanned and online in image format and their transcribed data is improving as well.

Are they correcting errors in previous transcriptions? While I really appreciate their efforts, I find that some of their indexes online are awful. What's even more frustrating is that there doesn't seem to be a process in place to correct even egregious errors.

Probably the worst case I saw was someone who indexed a whole bunch of records (more than 20) under the midwife's name instead of the father's, even changing the given name to make it masculine. So for all these births over a decade, the child's surname is that of the mid-wife instead of the father's, and the father's name is completely different, both given name and surname, from the actual name. The only way to find such a record is by the mother's name, and even then unless you knew what happened you wouldn't think it was the right person.

I used to index for them but gave up in frustration at being overruled on really obvious things. To give one example, there was a given name that I transcribed as Rosaria but the other indexer transcribed as "Vosaria," and the arbitrator ruled in favor of Vosaria! :shock: I could understand if other indexers have little experience with Italian records, but the people who resolve discrepancies should have some knowledge.
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Re: Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby johnnyonthespot » 10 Jun 2014, 14:12

It's a real problem. That is why I would prefer that the organization place less emphasis on transcribing records and more emphasis on simply digitizing them and putting them up on the web site. Even more awesome if they were to provide direct links to the index pages from each book!

While we are on the subject (sort of), I wish ancestry.com would add some basic sorting tools to their search results page.
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Re: Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby rp76226 » 10 Jun 2014, 15:30

I wish Ancestry.com would actually add to their Italian records instead of sitting on their duffs for years as they have been doing. Thank goodness for the Mormon site and the Italian state archives for some towns if your ancestors are Italian. I wish ancestry.com would fix their inherent duplication problems especially for their census and family tree hints. It's just too easy to duplicate people as the same hint is given for each member of a group of family members instead of going away once you use the hint the first time or at least given you some kind of duplication warning, as appropriate, before accepting a hint. I am also ticked off at Ancestry.com for closing their sister site, MyFamily.com ,after I spent years and thousands of hours of effort putting photo and video albums on it.
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Re: Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby carmenvalenziano » 10 Jun 2014, 16:18

i'm still working on an index for trani - here's what i have so far

BIRTH
1901 page 3
1902 page 175 (no "A")
1903 page 711
1904 page 1222
1905 page 1806
1906 page 2298
1907 page 2834[
1908 page 208

DEATHS
1901 page 2083
1902 page 2337
1903 page 2625
1904 page 2923
1905 page 7
1906 page 271
1907 page 495
1908 page 780
1909 page 986
1910 page 1234

MARRIAGES
1905 page 5
1906 page 185
1906 page 390
1907 page 583
1907 page 766

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Re: Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby carubia » 10 Jun 2014, 17:02

rp76226 wrote:I wish Ancestry.com would actually add to their Italian records instead of sitting on their duffs for years as they have been doing.

Recently I've found that Ancestry is adding birth records that are indexed on FS for Sicily. The main "benefit" to me so far is that now I'm adding baptismal dates to my profiles whereas I used to ignore them. OTOH, I now have even more hints to wade through that are not helpful, because the hints usually show up after I've added the person, or they are for someone else. And all the errors in the FS records are now being reproduced in Ancestry, with no way to correct them like one can correct census records.
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Re: Looking for List of Index Pages for Italian Records

Postby rp76226 » 10 Jun 2014, 17:23

There are so many garbage hints of all kinds on Ancestry.com that for a large tree (I have over 31,000 people and as many 'hints'), countless hours can be wasted looking at them. Just because the name is the same or similar, doesn't mean that ancestry.com should put it as a hint, but they do. The dates can be 100 years apart plus nothing else of family relationships suggests a match, but they proudly give it to you anyway - a complete waste of time!
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