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Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby Juliablueeyes2006 » 15 Jul 2014, 10:06

I'm looking for information on my great-grandfather. His name was James Genardo. All my grandmother (his daughter) knows abut his past is that he arrived in New Orleans from Palermo, Sicily. I've searched for every immigration record I can get access to for fee, and I can't find anything remotely close. He was born in 1894 and had to have gotten here before 1925.

Are there alternative spellings of his first and last name I should be looking for? The only information I have on him is that he was born on a farm near the sea, Marinello, and it was governed by the town Patti.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Jul 2014, 12:25

James is often an Americanization of Vincenzo.

The surname Genardo does not seen to exist in modern Italy though there is currently a single listing in the Italian telephone directory for Gennardo with two n's.

"De Nardo" is a real possibility however unlikely that may seem.
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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Jul 2014, 13:20

You can find 16 pages of "G" surnames here http://www.cognomix.it/origine-cognomi-italiani.php?l=g - The Ge's begin on page 5. This list is almost certainly not exhaustive, but a good representation.

You can judge the prevalence of a given surname here http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo- ... e=de+nardo
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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby jennabet » 15 Jul 2014, 13:27

The sur name of friends of our family in Wilmington, DE is Gerardo (with an R instead of an N).

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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Jul 2014, 14:32

Julia, can you tell us more about James Genardo?

Where did he reside in the US?

What was his wife's name?

Children's names and birth years?
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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Jul 2014, 14:54

Is this your James?

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If so, consider spending $10 to get a copy of his naturalization records from the National Archives. These should include the name of the ship and date when he arrived in the US and the full name which he traveled under.

Begin here https://eservices.archives.gov/orderonline/ Click Order Reproductions, then Immigration and Naturalization records and follow the remaining prompts. When you get to the "Please provide any additional information ..." box, enter the information from the card above.
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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby adelfio » 15 Jul 2014, 15:17

I think the surname possible is Giardino it is common in Patti Messina area do you have his father and mothers name? Do you have any sibling names?

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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby erudita74 » 15 Jul 2014, 15:46

The surname I am seeing in the Patti Italian records' indices is Gelardi, which on some passenger lists is recorded as Gelardo.

Below is a list of the frazioni or hamlets of Patti, one of which may be from where your ancestor came. You will note that Marinello itself is one of those frazioni.

Camera, Case Nuove Malluzzo, Case Nuove Russo, Gallo, Madoro, Marinello, Mongiove, Moreri, Provenzani, San Cosimo, Scala, Scarpiglia, Sorrentini, Tindari

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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby suanj » 15 Jul 2014, 16:09

Hi,
possible 1920 census, mispelled surname:
Jim Gerdo in household of Jimmers Russa
United States Census, 1920

Name: Jim Gerdo
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1920
Event Place: Saint John, Lake, Indiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Marital Status: Single

Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Brother
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Brother
Birth Year (Estimated): 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1913
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Jimmers Russa Head M 27 Italy
Joe Gerdo Head M 35 Italy
Jim Gerdo Brother M 24 Italy



1930 census; surname also mispelled:
James Genarl
United States Census, 1930

Name: James Genarl
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Dyer, Lake, Indiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1895
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1912
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Affiliate Film Number: 603
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
James Genarl Head M 35 Italy
Josephine Genarl Wife F 26 Louisiana
James Genarl Son M 6 Indiana
Rosie Genarl Daughter F 5 Indiana
Joe Genarl Son M 3 Indiana
Mary Genarl Daughter F 1 Indiana


abt the surname spelling .. some suggestion:
GINARDI
CINARDI
CINARDO

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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby erudita74 » 15 Jul 2014, 17:33

The Gennardi surname (with two n's) was found in the town of Mussomeli in Caltanissetta, Sicily in the 1890s. There is no Vincenzo born there in 1894 though. Quite a distance from Patti. The online Patti birth records jump from 1893 to 1896, but the surname there is Gelardi.

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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby Juliablueeyes2006 » 15 Jul 2014, 20:53

johnnyonthespot wrote:Julia, can you tell us more about James Genardo?

Where did he reside in the US?

What was his wife's name?

Children's names and birth years?


Johnny,

He lived in Indiana/Illinois. His wife's name was Josephine Schelfo.

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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby Juliablueeyes2006 » 15 Jul 2014, 20:56

johnnyonthespot wrote:Is this your James?

If so, consider spending $10 to get a copy of his naturalization records from the National Archives. These should include the name of the ship and date when he arrived in the US and the full name which he traveled under.

Begin here https://eservices.archives.gov/orderonline/ Click Order Reproductions, then Immigration and Naturalization records and follow the remaining prompts. When you get to the "Please provide any additional information ..." box, enter the information from the card above.


Johnny, this is my James. I've seen the naturalization record that ended up being approved, but it doesn't tell me anything about when he immigrated here. He's the short branch on my family tree. I get stuck on him because I don't know the names of his parents or his siblings. They were a Catholic family, so I'm betting he had siblings.

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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby Juliablueeyes2006 » 15 Jul 2014, 20:57

adelfio wrote:I think the surname possible is Giardino it is common in Patti Messina area do you have his father and mothers name? Do you have any sibling names?

Marty


Unfortunately, I don't have the names of his parents or siblings. That's why I decided to ask for help here. He's as far as I can trace on that side of my family.

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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby Juliablueeyes2006 » 15 Jul 2014, 21:03

suanj wrote:Hi,
possible 1920 census, mispelled surname:
Jim Gerdo in household of Jimmers Russa
United States Census, 1920

Name: Jim Gerdo
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1920
Event Place: Saint John, Lake, Indiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Marital Status: Single

Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Brother
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Brother
Birth Year (Estimated): 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1913
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Jimmers Russa Head M 27 Italy
Joe Gerdo Head M 35 Italy
Jim Gerdo Brother M 24 Italy



1930 census; surname also mispelled:
James Genarl
United States Census, 1930

Name: James Genarl
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Dyer, Lake, Indiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1895
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1912
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Affiliate Film Number: 603
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
James Genarl Head M 35 Italy
Josephine Genarl Wife F 26 Louisiana
James Genarl Son M 6 Indiana
Rosie Genarl Daughter F 5 Indiana
Joe Genarl Son M 3 Indiana
Mary Genarl Daughter F 1 Indiana


abt the surname spelling .. some suggestion:
GINARDI
CINARDI
CINARDO

best regards,
suanj



I'm not sure about the 1920 census, but I am sure that the 1930 census is my family. I just wish I could find who his parents were.

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Re: Looking for help on Genardo surname

Postby Juliablueeyes2006 » 15 Jul 2014, 21:04

erudita74 wrote:The Gennardi surname (with two n's) was found in the town of Mussomeli in Caltanissetta, Sicily in the 1890s. There is no Vincenzo born there in 1894 though. Quite a distance from Patti. The online Patti birth records jump from 1893 to 1896, but the surname there is Gelardi.

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Where can I search these records?


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