Antoni Vernno

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Antoni Vernno

Postby spectrumjo » 23 Aug 2014, 21:58

Hi everyone, trying to trace my boyfriends ancestors and I've got stuck.
I'm looking for information on Antoni Vernno who was born in Naples in about 1864, he came to England via New York on a ship called the Fulda on May 26 1897. It says on the record he was already married but I know that he married Miriam M Foster in Jan 1911 and started using various different names. I would like to find the details of his birth and of his first marraige, can anyone help please?
I'm really struggling so any help is greatful appreciated.
Thanks for all your help.
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Re: Antoni Vernno

Postby adelfio » 24 Aug 2014, 00:42

I don't think the surname is Vernno
The shipmanifest is he came from Napoli to NY it doesn't say born in Napoli it says came from the port of Napoli

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name:Antonio Vernno
Arrival Date:26 May 1897
Birth Date:abt 1866
Age:31
Gender:Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality:Italian
Port of Departure:Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival:New York, New York
Ship Name:Fulda

POSSIBLE BIRTH RECORD
Italy, Select Births and Baptisms, 1806-1900
Name:Antonio Verna
Gender:Male
Birth Date:13 giu 1863 (13 Jun 1863)
Baptism Date:14 giu 1863 (14 Jun 1863)
Baptism Place:Poggio Imperiale,Foggia,Italy
Father:Francesco Verna
Mother: Rosaria Lonzo
FHL Film Number:1037632

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Re: Antoni Vernno

Postby suanj » 24 Aug 2014, 10:33

I believe that the italian surname spelling is: VERRINO
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Re: Antoni Vernno

Postby suanj » 25 Aug 2014, 16:27

hi, again me.. just for understand better, because I have a big doubt:

you said that Antoni Vernno was married in England at Miriam M Foster..
really Anthony VERN married at Miriam Foster:
Name: Anthony Vern
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1911
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Event Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Volume: 6D
Page: 142
Line Number: 95
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/26WJ-VJR

the 1911 census:
Antonia Vern
England and Wales Census, 1911

Name: Antonia Vern
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Birthplace: Italy
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-District: All Saints
Parish: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/26WJ-VJR

My doubt:
I believe that you cannot have the certainty that Antoni VERNNO (immigrated in USA)
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it was your Anthony VERN married at Mirriam Foster in England..

by my behalf I searched and Antoni VERNNO immigrated in USA( ship's manifest above) was really Antonio VERRINO married at Maria Cataldo both from Napoli... Maria Cataldo ( and 2 children) followed the husband
First Name: Maria
Last Name: Cataldo
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Napoli
Date of Arrival: Jul 16, 1897
Age at Arrival: 35y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Sarnia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0009

the family appear on 1900 US census
Name: Antonio Verina
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Borough of Manhattan, Election District 10 New York City Ward 26, New York County, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 36
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Years Married: 16
Birth Date: Oct 1864
Birthplace: Italy
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1884
Immigration Year: 1896
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Antonio Verina Head M 36 Italy
Mary Verina Wife F 38 Italy
Gustavo Verina Son M 16 Italy
Alfred Verina Son M 13 Italy
Arthur Verina Son M 9 Italy
( aka Ettore on the ship's manifest)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1325221

1910 census
Name: Anthony Verrino
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1910
Event Place: Queens Ward 4, Queens, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1865
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1895
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Anthony Verrino Head M 45 Italy
Maria Verrino Wife F 47 Italy
Constance Verrino Son M 24 Italy
Ettore Verrino Son M 19 New York
Aida Verrino Daughter F 10 New York
Marie Verrino Daughter F 7 New York
Daria Verrino Mother F 72 Italy

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M53T-C9X

and it are also some other record...
I believe that Antoni VERNNO ( bad transcription of name, right: Antonio Verrino) was no your Anthony VERN...
your suggestions?
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