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Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegoli

Postby diegoli » 14 Nov 2014, 15:53

Hello!

For the past 6 months I've been looking for information about my great-great grandfather but with no luck. I don't know how but only now I was able to find this forum (and it's great btw!).

Anyway...I have very little information about when and where he was born. It gets even more complicated with the fact that his birth was around 1861. From what I researched, only churches had birth records at that time and they're probably lost now.

The only thing I know for sure is that he was born in Bologna (state, not town) so that makes it even worse. His father's name was Leonel Diegoli and mother's name was Estrolice Anna Maria. He was married to Luigia Ricci and came to Brazil in 1895.

Do you guys think it'd be better to contact a researcher? With so little information, would he be able to find his birth and marriage records?

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby adelfio » 14 Nov 2014, 17:01

Welcome to IG website
I think the best way is looking for their marriage record did they have any children?
What part of Brazil did they settle in?


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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby diegoli » 14 Nov 2014, 17:45

Thanks!

He arrived in Santos on 14th of May, 1895 - with 5 children but none of them is my great grandfather. He was born here in Brazil in 1897.

I even have the records of their arrival but unfortunately they do not contain any more information other than their names and age.

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby adelfio » 14 Nov 2014, 18:05

Could I have the names and birthdates of the children born in Italy might be easier to find the childrens birth records in a town of province Bologna

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby diegoli » 14 Nov 2014, 18:10

Absolutely!
Their names are: Dolusa (9), Zaira(7), Ida(5), Prosperina (4) and Concetta (6 months). The numbers in parenthesis are their age when they arrived in Brazil (1895).

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Postby adelfio » 14 Nov 2014, 18:14

Why don't you think they are not from comune di Bologna province Bologna?

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby adelfio » 14 Nov 2014, 18:16

Do you have any of the marriage records of the children from Brazil?

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby diegoli » 14 Nov 2014, 18:41

adelfio wrote:Why don't you think they are not from comune di Bologna province Bologna?

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Sorry, I must've miswrote it. The problem is the only thing I know is that he's from the province of Bologna. I don't know what town he was born.

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby diegoli » 14 Nov 2014, 18:42

I only have the marriage record from my great grandfather. These children that came along with him, we don't have any records.

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby adelfio » 14 Nov 2014, 18:47

What parish in Brazil did they use the childrens marriage records should have a birth town

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby Tessa78 » 14 Nov 2014, 19:08

Here is a POSSIBLE birth record for the youngest child, Concetta... who was listed as 6 months on arrival in 1895...

MODENA, like Bologna, is in the Emilia-Romagna Region of Italy... :-)


Concetta Maria Diegoli

Italy, Modena, Civil Registration (State Archive)
Name: Concetta Maria Diegoli
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 11 Aug 1893
Event Place: Finale, Modena, Italy
Gender: Female
Father's Name: Giovanni Giuseppe Diegoli
Certificate Number: 408
GS Film Number: 1350716 , Digital Folder Number: 005117489 , Image Number: 00045

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby adelfio » 14 Nov 2014, 19:08

Your family comes from Finale, Modena, Italy
Concetta Maria Diegoli
Italy, Modena, Civil Registration (State Archive)
Name: Concetta Maria Diegoli
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 11 Aug 1893
Event Place: Finale, Modena, Italy
Gender: Female
Father's Name: Giovanni Giuseppe Diegoli
Certificate Number: 408

Birth act of Concetta Diegoli
INDEX#408
1893 Aug 11th in the town of Finale birth of Concetta Maria Diegoli daughter of Giovanni Giuseppe Diegoli age 35 (son of deceased Leonello Diegoli) and Luigia Ricci (daughter of Agostino Ricci) they married in Dec 1893 to recognize the child

PG LINK TO RECORD
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby Tessa78 » 14 Nov 2014, 19:12

We are on the same wavelength, marty! :-)

That is what I posted above.

And here is the marriage act of Giovanni Giuseppe Diegoli and Luigia Ricci

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0
#110

Dated 13 December 1893

Groom: Giuseppe Degoli (this is the spelling throughout the record), unmarried, age 35, day laborer, born and residing in this town; son of deceased Leonello, and of Anna Maria Astrologi, residing this town
Bride: Luigia Ricci, unmarried, 32, day laborer, born in Comune of Bondeno (Province Ferrara), residing in this town; daughter of Agostino and of Catterina Berccini(?), residents of this place.
Banns posted on 26 November and 3 December.
Recognition of their natural born children:
Delcisa Catterina Maria born 28 March 1886
Zaira Fortunata maria born 16 February 1888
Ida born 21 September 1889 in Comune Bondeno
Prosperina born 29 April 1891 (possibly) in Comune of Bondeno
Concetta Maria born 11 August 1893

Here are the birth acts of the children named above who were born in Finale.
Delcisa (#174) - mother is unnamed in the original record, but recognition noted in margin
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0
Zaira (#81) - mother unnamed
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby adelfio » 14 Nov 2014, 19:42

Birth extract of Giuseppe Degoli from the marriage allegati
INDEX#222
1858 May 20th in the town of Finale birth of Giuseppe Degoli son of Leonello, and of Anna Maria Astrologi

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http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Re: Looking for birth and marriage records - Giuseppe Diegol

Postby diegoli » 14 Nov 2014, 20:19

OMG!!! You guys are awesome!!!

So that means he was born in Finale, Modena - not in Bologna as we first thought!
AND you guys found the marriage certificate as well!!

Thank you so much! That makes our lives much easier now.

Do you guys know how I can get my hands on one official copy so I can apply for the citizenship? Do I need someone to get it locally?

Again, thank you so much for this!


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