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Family Crest

Postby conno11 » 25 Nov 2014, 16:29

Ok so I was wondering does every house have a Family Crest or a House Sigil or do the family crest go off the towns crest?

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Re: Family Crest

Postby Italysearcher » 25 Nov 2014, 18:06

Unless you are of the nobility and awarded a crest by the reigning monarch I don't think you are entitled to one. Sorry.

http://www.italiangenealogy.com/article ... -genealogy
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In the middle of the twelfth century, during the Norman rule of much of Italy, coats of arms developed as distinctive insigna painted on the shields of knights and other nobleman. In combat, friend and foe could identify the fully armored knight, whose face was concealed by a helmet, according to the colorful design on his decorated shield. The same design appeared on his surcoat - hence the term "coat of arms." With time, the right to use certain (blazons), as well as feudal titles (i.e. count, baron, etc.), passed from father to son. Since these insigna and titles are incorporeal property of particular families, it is oblivious that unrelated families which by mere coincidence share their surnames (whether Ferrar, Rosso, Smith or Jones) cannot claim these coats of arms or titles of nobility as their own. To do so would like Mr. Johnson of Wales claiming the estate of the late Mr. Johnson of New York simply because he happens to have the same surname.
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Re: Family Crest

Postby k9obsessed » 25 Nov 2014, 19:39

Most Italian emigrants were not 'gentry' and had no family crest. The more affluent, and those who were nobility, had little reason to leave.
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Re: Family Crest

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Nov 2014, 02:31

More information here...
http://www.blazonsearch.com/faq.php

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Re: Family Crest

Postby Anizio » 30 Nov 2014, 18:22

Even if your name had a crest, you'd have to make sure it was actually YOUR family of that name, remembering that many names arose in separate places independently Ie. the Last name Carlucci has many completely unrelated branches in different parts of Italy.

So the only way to know would be to trace an actual ancestor back to nobility.

That being said most people are descended from "slaves and kings," meaning somewhere down the line you will find noble ancestors I'm sure
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Re: Family Crest

Postby conno11 » 30 Nov 2014, 21:07

Sweet thanks I was just wondering if every feudal family had one or not :)

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Re: Family Crest

Postby sprekopa » 04 Dec 2014, 17:26

My great grandfather was a baron in the mid 1800's. How do I search for my family crest?


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