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I'm Trying To Determine Where My Family Came From

Postby Thomas1968 » 13 Jan 2015, 07:09

Angelo James Rinaldi (1938-1998)- Born and Lived in Cleveland , Ohio

Salvatore Rinaldi (1912-1952) Wife - Victoria

Angelo Rinaldi (?) / Wife - Elizebeth Della Ci*Pa ( The spelling is of Salvatore's Death Certificate )



I am trying to determine where the family came from so that I can do a Family Tree....I was told Sicily , but I'm not sure....Angelo and Salvatore are listed as being born in Italy , so I assume they arrived in 1912 or later....I would be thankful for any help that could be provided...Thank You !

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Postby PippoM » 13 Jan 2015, 09:19

Hello!
Just a few questions to help us help you...
Did Angelo actually go to the USA?
Were Angelo and Salvatore father and son?
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Postby Paolo47 » 13 Jan 2015, 13:39

Hello Thomas and Pippo :D
This is a possible manifest record Salvatore,
http://postimg.org/image/vjkbdxw9d/

Here is the back turned where you can read it.
http://postimg.org/image/9niqifxdl/

Name: Salvatore Rinaldi
Gender: Male Age: 24
Nationality: Italian
Birth Date: abt 1915
Birth Place: Naples N Italy
Arrival Date: 20 May 1939
Arrival Port: Detroit, Michigan, USA
Accompanied By: Brother Antonio Rinaldi
Departure Contact: Father Angelo
Arrival Contact: Wife Vittoria Rinaldi

And I believe this could be the commune mentioned on the record,
http://www.comuni-italiani.it/061/060/index.html

If this is correct, there are some records online,
https://familysearch.org/search/image/i ... %3D2043630

Maybe some help,
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Re: I'm Trying To Determine Where My Family Came From

Postby adelfio » 13 Jan 2015, 16:56

Birth of Antonio Rinaldi
Index#28
1910 Mar 2nd in the town of Pignataro Maggiore birth of Antonio Rinaldi son of Angelo Rinaldi age 35 ropemaker and his wife Elisabetta Ciappa
CLICK ON RECORD TO ENLARGE
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Postby adelfio » 13 Jan 2015, 17:48

Looked for Angelo Rinaldi and Elisabetta Ciappa marriage record in Pignataro Maggiore didn't see it
I think they where married and born somewhere else possible Napoli

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Re: I'm Trying To Determine Where My Family Came From

Postby Thomas1968 » 13 Jan 2015, 20:02

Thank You Everybody for your help !....This should give me a good start in figuring this out....I'm not sure if Angelo actually came to America or not....Originally , I assumed that Salvatore came as a young child and that Angelo would have come with him , but I will have to find out.

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Postby Thomas1968 » 14 Jan 2015, 00:18

From talking to my friend , who I am doing the research for , he says that he thinks that Angelo did come to America as well , but isn't sure....Some of the information that was shared in this post on his son Salvatore , indicates that Angelo was in Italy in 1939 .


Name: Salvatore Rinaldi
Gender: Male Age: 24
Nationality: Italian
Birth Date: abt 1915
Birth Place: Naples N Italy
Arrival Date: 20 May 1939
Arrival Port: Detroit, Michigan, USA
Accompanied By: Brother Antonio Rinaldi
Departure Contact: Father Angelo
Arrival Contact: Wife Vittoria Rinaldi

** I'm still looking through the information , but this appears to be the right Salvatore .

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Postby Thomas1968 » 14 Jan 2015, 02:07

If this helps Salvatore had other siblings a John Rinaldi and a Fannie per his obit. , but Fannie might of been single , since no married name is given....I was hoping by searching for them that I might find the Family's Town Of Origin , if they were also born in Italy or Sicily .

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Postby Paolo47 » 14 Jan 2015, 11:07

If this helps Salvatore had other siblings a John Rinaldi and a Fannie per his obit


Here is a passport for Giovanni Rinaldi,
http://interactive.ancestry.com/1174/32 ... turnRecord

And his birth act in Camigliano,

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349510401
Angelo is 30 in 1905 according to the record. The mother is Elizabetta Della Cioppa
To see all the online records for that commune,.Click on the Camigliano link.

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Postby Paolo47 » 14 Jan 2015, 13:03

Once again..
The marriage of Angelo and Elizabetta,

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349510401

Angelo's father, Giovanni, mother, Filomena Di Gataeno and per the marriage act, Angelo was born in Camigliano.
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Postby Paolo47 » 14 Jan 2015, 15:00

And here is Angelo' birth act. I am guessing June ? 1874. Father, Giovanni and Mother, Filomena Di Gaetano.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,954415101
You are to be commended for helping your friend and once you have organized this information, you should be able to grow his family tree.
The best to both of you,
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Postby liviomoreno » 14 Jan 2015, 16:00

Paolo47 wrote:And here is Angelo' birth act. I am guessing June ? 1874. Father, Giovanni and Mother, Filomena Di Gaetano.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,954415101
You are to be commended for helping your friend and once you have organized this information, you should be able to grow his family tree.
The best to both of you,
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Birth date is June 9
the side note states that he married Elisabetta Cioppa on 2 Jun 1904 (Act #14) in Vitulazio. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349532401

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Postby liviomoreno » 14 Jan 2015, 16:13

Marriage banns (Antgelo and Elisabetta) in Vitulazio: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349532401

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Postby liviomoreno » 14 Jan 2015, 16:21

The Marriage was transcribed in Camegliano: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349510401

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Re: I'm Trying To Determine Where My Family Came From

Postby Thomas1968 » 14 Jan 2015, 18:23

WOW....Thank You Again Everybody !....I still need to go through this information , but it is Greatly Appreciated ! :D


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