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Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby jbergamo » 14 Jan 2015, 00:09

Searching for commune my grandfather and grandmother came from in Italy. Most of our family have passed on so there is no family information we can gather.

Grandfather. Alfonso Bergamo 1886. Immigrated 1894
Grandmother. Josephina Bergamo. 1876 immigrated 1888
Can't find them on any passenger list. Alfonso had a close relative who lived in Brooklyn , Kings , New York.
Ermelinda Bergamo 1886-1978
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Already searched Sant Angelo Sei Lombardi with no success
Thanks
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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby adelfio » 14 Jan 2015, 04:29

Welcome to IG website is this your Alfonso
Alfonso Bergamo
United States Census, 1920
Name: Alfonso Bergamo
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1920
Event Place: Newark Ward 7, Essex, New Jersey, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Own or Rent: Rent
Birth Year (Estimated): 1875
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1894
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Alfonso Bergamo Head M 45 Italy
Josephina Bergamo Wife F 34 Italy
Anna Bergamo Daughter F 16 New York
Mary Bergamo Daughter F 15 New York
Florence Bergamo Daughter F 14 New York
Pasfuafe Bergamo Son M 12 New York
Maria Bergamo Daughter F 11 New York
Vincenzo Bergamo Son M 6 New Jersey
Alfonso Bergamo Son M 1 New Jersey
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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby jbergamo » 14 Jan 2015, 08:40

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Yes, this is my family. Other then a few census records I can't find much else. I know Josephina died around 1930 and Alfonso early 1950's. Don't know where to go from here. Any suggestions? They must be on those passenger immigration list but can't find their names.
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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby adelfio » 16 Jan 2015, 20:04

Is this him in New Jersey
Alfonso Bergamo
United States Census, 1940
Name: Alfonso Bergamo
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Ward 7, Newark, Newark City, Essex, New Jersey, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 65
Marital Status: Widowed
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Father-In-Law
Relationship to Head of Household: Father-in-law
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Year (Estimated): 1875
Last Place of Residence: Same Place
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Patsy Ciffelo Head M 38 New Jersey
Anna Ciffelo Wife F 37 New York
Anita Ciffelo Daughter F 12 New Jersey
Alfonso Bergamo Father-in-law M 65 Italy

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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby adelfio » 17 Jan 2015, 16:29

This 1915 Census says they the kids where born in Newark N J I would try to send for Alfonso death record in Essex county NJ records
Pasquale Bergamo
New Jersey, State Census, 1915
Name: Pasquale Bergamo
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1915
Event Place: Newark, 7 ward, 4 district, Essex, New Jersey, United States
Gender: Female
Birth Date: Mar 1907
Birthplace: Newark N J

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Alfhonso Bergamo M Italy
Josephine Bergamo F Italy
Annie Bergamo F Newark N J
Maria Bergamo F Newark N J
Flora Bergamo F Newark N J
Pasquale Bergamo F Newark N J
Marion Bergamo F Newark N J
Vincent Bergamo F

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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby suanj » 17 Jan 2015, 18:11

Hi, I found a :
First Name : Ermelinda
Last Name : Bergamo
Nationality : US Citizen
Date of Arrival : September 16th, 1908
Age at Arrival : 32y
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Married
Ship of Travel : Principe di Piemonte
Port of Departure : Naples
Manifest Line Number : 0008

http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
born in Torella dei Lombardi ( Avellino province)
her full name was Maria Rosaria Ermelinda BERGAMO born in Torella dei Lombardi on 6 Feb 1876 #18 daughter of Giacomo Bergamo 36 old shoemaker and of Filomena Pisani

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,348474402
this Emelinda could be the possible relative of your Alfonso??
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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby suanj » 18 Jan 2015, 15:14

maybe helpful:
Alfonso Borgamo

United States Census, 1910

Name: Alfonso Borgamo
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1910
Event Place: Newark Ward 7, Essex, New Jersey, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1890
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Alfonso Borgamo Head M 39 Italy (imm. 1890)
Josephine Borgamo Wife F 25 Italy (imm. 1897)
Annie Borgamo Daughter F 8 New York
Dolce Borgamo Daughter F 7 New York
Flora Borgamo Daughter F 5 New York
Pezzi Borgamo Son M 3 New York
Mary Borgamo Daughter F 1 New York


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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby suanj » 18 Jan 2015, 16:44

abt my reply on Erme4linda Bergamo, now I believe that is the wrong Ermelinda, that because I found that Ermelinda Bergamo related to Alfonso Bergamo, well.. she was married at Edward DILOLLO or LOLLO ( or Lullo) .. Ermelinda changed the her first name in Emma; here the 1940 census

Emma Lollo

United States Census, 1940

Name: Emma Lollo
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Assembly District 11, Brooklyn, New York City, Kings, New York, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 50
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Wife
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Year (Estimated): 1890
Last Place of Residence: Same Place

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Edinard Lollo Head M 51 New York (Edward)
Emma Lollo Wife F 50 Italy
Frank Bereano Uncle M 78 Italy (Frank BERGAMO; last residence Chicago, ILL)


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=2000219

her husband:
Edward Lollo
United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Edward Lollo
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1942
Event Place: Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 03 Sep 1887
Affiliate ARC Identifier: 2555973
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1861144

abt Frank Bergamo, uncle of Ermelinda Lollo/Lullo nee Bergamo, well he was born in Oliveto Citra ( Salerno province, IT)


Frank G. Bergamo

Illinois Deaths and Stillbirths

Name: Frank G. Bergamo
Event Date: 24 Feb 1942
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Male
Age: 79
Birth Year (Estimated): 1863
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1862
Birthplace: Olivito City, Italy
Father's Name: Vincenzo Bergamo
Father's Birthplace: Olivito City, Italy
Mother's Name: Rosa Cappetta
Mother's Birthplace: Olivito, City, Italy

Occupation: Barber
Burial Date: 28 Feb 1942
Burial Place: Proviso, Cook, Illinois
Cemetery: Mt. Carmel

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3HJ-ZH6
also Lullo surname is a popular surname in Oliveto Citra... seeming that the right Birth area is Salerno province and no Avellino province.... just a suggestion

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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby jbergamo » 18 Jan 2015, 17:20

Suanj,
We think this might be our family Ermelinda Bergamo. She married Edward DiLollo in New York 1910.
Born in 1886 and died 1978.

Alfonso Bergamo married his brothers daughter Josephine. In the 1925 NY census her mother Flora was living with her, age 64. Could this have been Filomena?

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Postby suanj » 18 Jan 2015, 17:21

the right arrival ofElmelinda BERGAMO coming from in Oliveto Citra( Salerno province, IT) :
First Name : Elmelinda
Last Name : Bergamo
Nationality : Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence : Oliveto Citra
Date of Arrival : January 13th, 1905
Age at Arrival : 18y
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Single
Ship of Travel : Lombardia
Port of Departure : Napoli
Manifest Line Number : 0025



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in USA from 1898 to 1904, joining at mother Fiorentina Pasquale or viceversa...

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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby suanj » 18 Jan 2015, 17:22

Flora must be Fiorentina..
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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby suanj » 18 Jan 2015, 17:29

the mother of Ermelinda( spelled also Elmelinda, but right is Ermelinda), well, the mother was Fiorentina Pasquala VECE; she arrived in USA on March 25th, 1899, with daughters: Giuseppa 19 old and Ermelinda 12 old, joining at son Gaetano Bergamo in New York

First Name : Fiorentine
Last Name : Vece
Nationality : Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence : Olivato Citro
Date of Arrival : March 25th, 1899
Age at Arrival : 37y
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Married
Ship of Travel : Archimede
Port of Departure : Napoli
Manifest Line Number : 0008


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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby jbergamo » 18 Jan 2015, 17:29

In 1925 New York Census it was Ermelinda who's mother Flora was living with her,

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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby suanj » 18 Jan 2015, 17:50

yes, Flora was the version of italian Fiorentina ... Fiorentina can be translated as Florence in english, she used Flora.... same meaning... so we know that this family coming from Oliveto Citra.. now when you say that Alfonso married at " his brothers daughter Josephine " you mean that Josephine was Alfonso niece? She could be Giuseppa Bergamo sister of Ermelinda??
Giuseppa in english is Josephine...
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Re: Seeking Alfonso Bergamo family commune

Postby jbergamo » 18 Jan 2015, 18:10

Yes, Josephine was Alfonso's niece. We have always wondered if Elmelinda and Josephine were sisters. Or if Alfonso had brothers who had Elmelinda. ( by the way Elmelinda is how the family spelled her name) Frank Bergamo is Elmelinda uncle is he possibly Alfonso brother?


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