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Surname Radosti

Postby kellyjonovak » 20 Feb 2015, 04:12

Hello, I have had trouble in the past with my research as my great great grandfather immigrated to the US (going to New Orleans, New York, and Milwaukee, WI) as Frank J. Ross but his real Italian surname was Radosti. He first immigrated to New Orleans, LA from Palermo in 1882 according to his US naturalization papers. In his death notice in 1950, it stated that he had a brother Matteo Radosti (he kept the family name) who was living in Passaic, NJ at the time. Now that I know that the surname was Radosti, I was able to find immigration info on Matteo who came from Palermo, a comune called Campofiorito. Both brothers went back and forth between Italy and the US making it even more confusing! Who would I be able to contact in Campofiorito to find any birth records, marriage records, baptisms, etc. I have been researching for 10 years and it is very exciting to finally have found the town of my ancestors but I don't know what the next step would be. The language and translation is going to be a problem as I don't know much Italian. I researched my Polish side of the family and was able to find a geneology project in Poland to help me find records that weren't online, is there someone here or something similar to help with Italian records. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby Anizio » 20 Feb 2015, 04:38

You would write to the Stato Civile office of Campofiorito, asking for a copia integrale dell'atto di nascita of Francesco Radosti (assuming that is "Frank's" real name - do not ask them for Frank's birth record, and his middle initial cannot be J since there is no J in the Italian alphabet, but the birth act will give you his real name). In order to do so you will need to his birth date, or at least a small range of a few years when you think he was born.

If you tell me the birth date, year, or an approximate year, I can help you form a letter. It is quite easy, I would try email first and if they don't respond after a month or two then send the request as a letter.
TIP: When asking for records from Italy, do NOT ask for an "estratto." ALWAYS ask for a "copia integrale." A photocopy of the original Act will contain more information

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby kellyjonovak » 20 Feb 2015, 16:25

According to our family records and Ancestry.com, Francesco Radosti was born in January 1865. He had a brother Matteo, do not know any other family members names. The J in his name was for Joseph in the English version, so I assume he was Francesco Giuseppe? He left to go to America the first time in 1888. So that would give a date rangeof 1865-1888 that he was in Campofiorito. I so appreciate your help with this, this is so exciting to make contact there! Molto grazie!

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby suanj » 20 Feb 2015, 18:01

Hi
I found Matteo Radosti born in Campofiorito, baptized on 8 Jan 1872 #2, son of Giuseppe Radosti and Francesca Caccioppo.. the record is in latin

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,351056401
In all 1865 baptisms I no found Francesco or Francesco Giuseppe Radosti record..

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby adelfio » 20 Feb 2015, 18:05

I did some searching 1865 in Campofiorito church of San Giuseppe Sposo di Maria Santissima the only Baptism in Jan would be a Pasquale Radosti 1865 Jan 21 son of Giuseppe Radosti and Rosalia Cinquemani are you sure about the birth year there were some Francesco Radosti in the 1863 but not Jan

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby kellyjonovak » 20 Feb 2015, 20:11

I believe that the entry for Pasquale would be my great great grandfather! On all of his census records, naturalization, and official records, he lists his birthdate as 21 Jan 1865. We knew that he changed his name from Rodasti to Ross so he most likely changed his first name to something American as well. We assumed he was a Francesco but the Pasquale entry seems to match. My great-grandfather was named Joseph and he was his first born and was told he was named after his grandfather Giuseppe. So that would seem to match up. Thank you for this gift!

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby adelfio » 20 Feb 2015, 22:36

I believe too that is your great great grandfather here is his brother
Baptism of Matteo(Mathio) Radasti
Index#2
1861 Jan 10 in Campofiorito church of San Giuseppe Sposo di Maria Santissima the baptism of Matteo Radasti son of Giuseppe Radosti and Paula Cinquemani (right first name can see clearer)

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby adelfio » 20 Feb 2015, 22:52

Marriage of Giuseppe Radosti and Paula Cinquemani
1849 June 16th in Campofiorito church of San Giuseppe Sposo di Maria Santissima appeared Giuseppe Radosti son of Antonino Radosti and deceased Anna Mattia Schifani married Paula Maria Cinquemani daughter of Giuseppe Cinquemani and Giuseppa La Russa

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby adelfio » 20 Feb 2015, 23:26

Baptism of Angela Radosti
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1857 Dec 7th in Campofiorito church of San Giuseppe Sposo di Maria Santissima the baptism of Angela Radasti daughter of Giuseppe Radosti and Paula Cinquemani

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby suanj » 21 Feb 2015, 10:53

Hi
In his death notice in 1950, it stated that he had a brother Matteo Radosti (he kept the family name) who was living in Passaic, NJ at the time.

right Matthew Radosti(?? :?: )
Matthew Rodasti

United States Census, 1930

Name: Matthew Rodasti
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Passaic, Passaic, New Jersey, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 57
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1873
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1926
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Matthew Rodasti Head M 57 Italy
Marian Rodasti Wife F 44 Italy
Martin Rodasti Son M 17 Italy
Frank Rodasti Son M 12 Italy
Frances Rodasti Daughter F 9 Italy
Josie Rodasti Daughter F 6 Italy
Angelina Rodasti Daughter F 3 New Jersey
Louise Rodasti Daughter F 0 New Jersey

seeming born around 1872/1873... for that I searched in these years and found:

Matteo Radosti born in Campofiorito, baptized on 8 Jan 1872 #2, son of Giuseppe Radosti and Francesca Caccioppo.. the record is in latin


Radosti is a very popular surname in Campofiorito...
many peoples immigrated in USA also... if you can add more details we can search better so we can have the right certainty that the records are abt your ancestors..

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby suanj » 21 Feb 2015, 11:13

again me; if the below record is abt your ancestor well the italian name was Francesco Radosti and his birthyear 1863 circa...

here a trip of your ancestor:
First Name : Francesco
Last Name : Radosti
Nationality : Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence : Garfield USA
Date of Arrival : August 24th, 1909
Age at Arrival : 46y
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married
Ship of Travel : Carpathia
Port of Departure : Palermo
Manifest Line Number : 0001
lefting sister Paola Radosti widow Guagliardo in Campofiorito;
travelling with nieces Rosalia Guagliardo and Vincenza Guagliardo;
joining at his wife Maria MANTA SELVAGGIO in Garfield NJ
pag 1 http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/s ... SUYiOw==/1

pag 2 http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/s ... SUYiOw==/1
so we must search his baptism record around 1863...
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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby adelfio » 21 Feb 2015, 15:52

I found this Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930 this is his wifes name from Milwaukee, WI
Ida Mesler
Name: Frank Ragust
Spouse's Name: Ida Mesler
Event Date: 25 May 1889
Father's Name: Joseph Ragust
Mother's Name: Mary Ragust
Spouse's Father's Name: John Mesler
Spouse's Mother's Name: Milhausen

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby suanj » 21 Feb 2015, 16:30

suanj wrote:again me; if the below record is abt your ancestor well the italian name was Francesco Radosti and his birthyear 1863 circa...

here a trip of your ancestor:
First Name : Francesco
Last Name : Radosti
Nationality : Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence : Garfield USA
Date of Arrival : August 24th, 1909
Age at Arrival : 46y
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married
Ship of Travel : Carpathia
Port of Departure : Palermo
Manifest Line Number : 0001
lefting sister Paola Radosti widow Guagliardo in Campofiorito;
travelling with nieces Rosalia Guagliardo and Vincenza Guagliardo;
joining at his wife Maria MANTA SELVAGGIO in Garfield NJ
pag 1 http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/s ... SUYiOw==/1

pag 2 http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/s ... SUYiOw==/1
so we must search his baptism record around 1863...
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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby kellyjonovak » 22 Feb 2015, 01:40

Marty, I can't seem to pull up the record from this link even though I have an ancestry account. Any chance you can cut and paste the info or email it to me? kelly.novak1@comcast.net This is my family! This is beyond exciting!

Re: Surname Radosti

Postby adelfio » Yesterday, 16:52
I found this Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930 this is his wifes name from Milwaukee, WI
Ida Mesler
Name: Frank Ragust
Spouse's Name: Ida Mesler
Event Date: 25 May 1889
Father's Name: Joseph Ragust
Mother's Name: Mary Ragust
Spouse's Father's Name: John Mesler
Spouse's Mother's Name: Milhausen

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Re: Surname Radosti

Postby adelfio » 22 Feb 2015, 21:09

You know on those Italian records parents are Giuseppe Radosti and Paula Maria Cinquemani
Heres the links to that marriage info
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRDT-6BC

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... &ml_rpos=1

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