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Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby magbag1 » 02 Mar 2015, 17:01

Does anyone know if In Italy were there other spellings for Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore around the mid 1800's?

Once immigrants came here, census takers misspelled a lot of names so the spelling of these names may have been different in Italy, possibly around the Calabresa area. This is the only area that someone in the family said my Great Grandmother had talked about so I am guessing the two of them are from this area.

Any help would be appreciated as I am trying to locate birth certificates on them. They did not marry until after they came to the US via a ship thru Ellis Island.

I don't know what ship or what year either so I am trying to find that info as well, so any help with that would also be appreciated.

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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby adelfio » 02 Mar 2015, 18:14

Welcome to IG website
Is this your Frank and Minnie Moyer
Frank Moro
United States Census, 1910
Name: Frank Moro
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1910
Event Place: Groton, New London, Connecticut, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 46
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1864
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1887
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Frank Moro Head M 46 Italy
Minnie Moro Wife F 33 Italy
Rosa Moro Daughter F 17 Connecticut
Frank Moro Son M 15 Connecticut
Loue Moro Son M 12 Connecticut
Angelina Moro Daughter F 9 Connecticut
Anna Moro Daughter F 5 Connecticut
Tony Moro Son M 3

PG LINK TO RECORD
http://interactive.ancestry.com/7884/31 ... 7344-01274

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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby magbag1 » 02 Mar 2015, 22:31

This looks to be them yes, My grandmother Alice wasn't born yet as her birthdate was 1912. Do you have more info on them? This is great information.

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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby adelfio » 02 Mar 2015, 23:34

Have you ever gotten Frank Moyers death record or obit? Since the name has been changed might have some info on it. Did he have any brothers or sisters?
Frank Moyer
Connecticut, Death Index
Name: Frank Moyer
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 01 Feb 1950
Event Place: Preston, New London, Connecticut
Residence Place: Groton, New London, Connecticut
Gender: Male
Age: 91
Marital Status: Unknown
Race: White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1859
Certificate Number: 02762

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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby magbag1 » 02 Mar 2015, 23:44

We have not been able to find him and that may be because of the name change spelling but as far as I know he had been spelling it Moyer but he may have changed it to that when he got older or was in the US longer. I do not have any records of birth and death on him or Minnie.

Where is the Certificate Number you found and is the info you provided is that what's on it?

I do not know if he had any siblings if he did they stayed in Italy. As far as I know he was the only one that came on the ship that trip. No one ever mentioned any siblings of him or Minnie here in the US.

I do not even know what ship or what day.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby magbag1 » 03 Mar 2015, 00:10

Do you know how I can find out who Frank and Minnie's parents were? And their Birthdates?

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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby suanj » 03 Mar 2015, 06:07

Hi here the 1900 census:

Frank Moire

United States Census, 1900

Name: Frank Moire
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Groton township, School Districts 1-4, 6 & 9, New London, Connecticut, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Date: 1860
Birthplace: Italy
Immigration Year: 1888
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Frank Moire Head M 40 Italy
Minnie M Moire Wife F 24 Italy
Rose M Moire Daughter F 8 Connecticut
Frank Moire Son M 5 Connecticut
Louis M Moire Son M 2 Connecticut

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1325221
possible surnames spell: MAURO and SANTORO
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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby PippoM » 05 Mar 2015, 14:54

I found the 1940 census, but it does not add anything to what we already know, but one more birth date for Minnie:

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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby magbag1 » 05 Mar 2015, 21:32

I have a birth and death date and a birth location for Frank Moyer. They are March 10, 1863, at Calabria, Italy, and he died Feb 1, 1950 in Groton, CT

For Minnie Sandora, she died April 10, 1942 and I have to assume it too was in Groton, CT. I do not have a birthdate or location for her yet. I got her death date from Frank's obituary that I got from the Newspaper today. They are sending me a copy of the article.

I was able to find out what newspaper was in business back then and also found out what funeral home took care of him and where he is buried. He is in the same cemetery as my mother.

What a coincidence! I was there 20 yrs ago to see her grave and didn't even know he was there too.

So now how do I go about getting his birth certificate?

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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby PippoM » 06 Mar 2015, 22:04

What I wrote in your other thread, and then deleted, is that the main issue id finding their place of origin and original surnames. After that, it will not be difficult to request certificates.
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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby suanj » 08 Mar 2015, 18:03

magbag1 wrote:Does anyone know if In Italy were there other spellings for Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore around the mid 1800's?

Once immigrants came here, census takers misspelled a lot of names so the spelling of these names may have been different in Italy, possibly around the Calabresa area. This is the only area that someone in the family said my Great Grandmother had talked about so I am guessing the two of them are from this area.

Any help would be appreciated as I am trying to locate birth certificates on them. They did not marry until after they came to the US via a ship thru Ellis Island.

I don't know what ship or what year either so I am trying to find that info as well, so any help with that would also be appreciated.

Thank you,

Well I believe that I found the marriage record:
Francesco MOIA and Gracomina SANTORA ( the first name right spell is Giacomina, the maiden name is Santoro) married in Manhattan on 9 Jan 1892..
by stevemorse.org website:

Santora Gracomina Jan 9 1892 1775 (1892) Manhattan 1452283 Moia, Francesco
Moia Francesco Jan 9 1892 1775 (1892) Manhattan 1452283 Santora, Gracomina


by familysearch.org more details:

Francesco Moia

mentioned in the record of Francesco Moia and Giacomina Santora

Name: Francesco Moia
Spouse's Name: Giacomina Santora
Event Date: 09 Jan 1892
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Father's Name: Domenico
Mother's Name: Rosaria Russo
Spouse's Father's Name: Guiseppe
Spouse's Mother's Name: Filomena Pagano

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00833-3 , System Origin: New_York-ODM , GS Film number: 1452283
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F63B-X3T
I believe right couple...
and if right, maybe here the 1900 census of Giacomina aka Minnie parents:


Joseph Santoro

United States Census, 1900

Name: Joseph Santoro
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Borough of Manhattan, Election District 13 New York City Ward 6, New York County, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 57
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Years Married: 36
Birth Date: Sep 1843
Birthplace: Italy
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1864
Immigration Year: 1883
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Joseph Santoro Head M 57 Italy
Philomena Santoro Wife F 55 Italy
Mary Santoro Daughter F 17 Italy
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1325221
I believe that Giacomina was born on 26 Feb 1878 in Petina,Salerno,Compania,Italy
it are a genealogic tree on line( ancestry.com) abt this family... the owner don't kew more just the births and it are also some error, however is interesting...

your suggestions..?
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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby PippoM » 09 Mar 2015, 09:37

This should be the ship manifest for Filomena Pagano, with daughter Giacomina and son Giuseppe in 1891:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1849782

If they are the right people, this confirms they were from Petina, province of Salerno
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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby suanj » 09 Mar 2015, 09:53

the below record confirm that MOIA or better MOIO is the italian surname spelling:

Mary Moia
Connecticut, Deaths and Burials

Name: Mary Moia
Gender: Female
Death Date: 03 Nov 1894
Death Place: Groton, New London, Connecticut
Age: 1
Birth Date: 1893
Father's Name: Frank Moia
Mother's Name: Amelia

the only discrepance is that the Minnie, italian first name is Amelia... :shock:
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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby magbag1 » 21 Mar 2015, 21:24

Thank you for all this information. I have not checked until today. I did not know I had any responses. I did not get any notifications in my email that I had gotten any.

I will look over this information and let you all know any updates.

Thank you so much for all your time!

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Re: Frank Moyer and Minnie Sandore (sp)

Postby magbag1 » 27 Mar 2015, 22:03

I will be sending out a request for Frank and Minnie's death certificates tomorrow.

I tried to find their marriage info at the site you found it at but I could not locate it. I am doing something wrong but I don't know what.

I will try again.

As soon as I get the death certificates I will let you know what they say.

Thanks!


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