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Postby February » 04 Mar 2015, 22:41

Could someone kindly tell me how to apply for military records for someone born in Sant'Egidio del Monte Albino? Was serving in the military required?

Thank you for any help.

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Re: Military Records

Postby Anizio » 04 Mar 2015, 23:09

In order to answer that we would need to know a birth year.
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Re: Military Records

Postby February » 05 Mar 2015, 01:21

Thank you for responding.

I'm looking for two records: 1874 and 1902.

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Re: Military Records

Postby adelfio » 05 Mar 2015, 04:24

What names are you looking for?

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Re: Military Records

Postby February » 05 Mar 2015, 13:38

It's the same name - Carmine Ferraioli - a generation apart. Are these records online?

Thank you for your help!

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Re: Military Records

Postby PippoM » 05 Mar 2015, 14:31

I found this one in enrollment lists of Salerno province:

Ferrajoli
Nome: Carmine, Salvatore
Classe: 1874
Comune di nascita: Sant'Egidio del Monte Albino
Full text:
Ferrajoli Carmine, Salvatore di Antonio e Nocera Carolina nato il 08/10/1874 a Sant'Egidio del Monte Albino di professione Contadino

Ferraioli, with its variations, is a very popular surname in Sant'Egidio.
You can find such lists online at

http://www.archiviodistatosalerno.benic ... te-di-leva

Notice that you can choose the Commune in a drop-down menu, and there are several different spellings for Sant'Egidio
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Re: Military Records

Postby adelfio » 05 Mar 2015, 14:44

The military leva of Salerno province online are from 1837-1895 I don't see a Carmine Ferraioli 1874
Did he come to the USA before his 18th birthday
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Re: Military Records

Postby February » 05 Mar 2015, 23:04

Thank you for that link - I was able to find him. I went through all the alternate spellings of the name Ferraioli. It had been misspelled with a "j" instead of an "i".

Would the 1902 military records be available by mail or is 1895 the last date covered?

Are any other records (birth, marriage, etc.) for Sant'Egidio del Monte Albino be available online?

Thank you for your kind help.

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Re: Military Records

Postby PippoM » 06 Mar 2015, 09:50

Ferrajoli might not be a misspelling. There are still some Ferrajoli's in Sant'Egidio area today (I'm from near there). It is indeed possible that people originated from the same ancestor have surnames Ferrajoli, Ferraioli, or Ferraiolo, as a consequence of transcription errors.
According to the site of Salerno AdS, they hope to put online enrollment lists up to 1900 by the end of 2015. As far as I know, there are no other records online, but you can write to the AdS to get some, if you have exact dates.
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Re: Military Records

Postby February » 06 Mar 2015, 15:50

Pippo, my apologies, I didn't see your first post until this morning. When I was notified that there was a response, I clicked on the link to see the last post and noticed only adelfio's answer. Thank you for taking the time to find Carmine - that is indeed him. If I had been more careful in checking the messages, it would have saved me some time.

The transcription error is in this record - I am sure the name is Ferraioli. I do have dates but need a sample request letter and address.

Thank you again for your help.

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Re: Military Records

Postby PippoM » 06 Mar 2015, 22:33

You might write to the Commune of Sant'Egidio (National Archived only keep birth records up to 1865) demografici@comune.santegidiodelmontealbino.sa.it

Buongiorno,
mi chiamo <your name> e vivo in <your country>.
Vorrei ricevere, preferibilmente via email, o in subordine per posta ordinaria, l'estratto integrale dell'atto di nascita del mio antenato
Carmine Ferraioli
nato a Sant'Egidio Montalbino il 8/10/1874
Vi prego di farmi sapere se tale atto è disponibile, ed in caso affermativo, i costi e le modalità di pagamento.
Distinti saluti.

Hello,
my name name is <> and I live in <>
I'd like to get from you, preferably by email, or by ordinary mail as an alternative, the complete Birth record for my ancestor...
Please let me know it this is possible, how much this costs, and how I can pay.
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Re: Military Records

Postby February » 07 Mar 2015, 19:30

Thank you. I have already sent requests to Sant'Egidio for birth records with mixed results. I got a response for Carmine (1874), but not for the younger Carmine. I think the failure of the second request was my fault - I didn't give enough identifying information. So, I thought the military records might give me the information on the younger Carmine that I needed.

I would be grateful for a sample request letter and address of the agency that handles military records.

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Re: Military Records

Postby PippoM » 09 Mar 2015, 09:21

You can try writing to to Archivio di Stato di Salerno

as-sa@beniculturali.it

Buongiorno,
mi chiamo <your name> e vivo in <your country>.
Vorrei ricevere, preferibilmente via email, il foglio matricolare relativo al mio antenato
Carmine Ferraioli
nato a Sant'Egidio Montalbino nel 1902
Vi prego di farmi sapere se tale documento è disponibile, ed in caso affermativo, i costi e le modalità di pagamento.
Distinti saluti.
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Re: Military Records

Postby February » 10 Mar 2015, 01:55

Thank you Pippo, I've sent the e-mail off to the Archivio di Stato di Salerno.
You can try writing...

How long should I expct for a response? Do they sometimes not answer?

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Re: Military Records

Postby PippoM » 10 Mar 2015, 08:29

I do my researches there (on site, or by email), and they usually answer within one week.
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