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Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby VotM » 22 Mar 2015, 12:02

I'm looking for birth records for two grandparents, both born in Cefalu. Having been through the Cefalu birth records on FamilySearch several times with no success, I'm hoping a second set of eyes or a fresh perspective (or access to different data sets) will lead to better results.

First up is Giuseppe Papa, who was born sometime in either 1879 (no data on FamilySearch), 1880, or 1881. His father may be listed as either Vincenzo Papa or Felice Esposito inteso Vincenzo Papa or some variant thereof (his siblings were under three different permutations of these names); his mother may be listed as Marianna Carnaggio or Maria Carnaggio.

Second is Giuseppa DiFina, born either in 1900 or 1901. Her father's name is Domenico DiFina; her mother's first name is listed on the 1910 U.S. census record as "Augustina", so I suspect her first name should appear as Agostina. I do not have a last name for her.

Any help anyone out there can give would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby suanj » 22 Mar 2015, 17:15

a Giuseppe Papa is in the 1878 Birth index #336... but the births ending at #297..
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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby suanj » 22 Mar 2015, 17:26

Giuseppa Di Fina arrival with siblings and mother Agostina Catanzaro joining at DI FINA Domenico... last residence: Termini ( Termini Imerese)
here the trip crossed:
First Name : Giuseppa
Last Name : Di Fina
Nationality : Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence : Termini
Date of Arrival : September 3rd, 1905
Age at Arrival : 4y
Gender : Female
Ship of Travel : Italia (1904)
Port of Departure : Palermo
Manifest Line Number : 0020

http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/s ... SUYiOw==/1
the right arrival:
First Name : Giuseppa
Last Name : Di Fina
Nationality : Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence : Termini
Date of Arrival : September 29th, 1905
Age at Arrival : 4y
Gender : Female
Ship of Travel : Liguria
Port of Departure : Napoli
Manifest Line Number : 0022

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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby VotM » 22 Mar 2015, 17:40

suanj wrote:a Giuseppe Papa is in the 1878 Birth index #336... but the births ending at #297..
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,248295301
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Thanks. I had ruled that entry out because his sister Santa was born on May 24 of the same year, and the index runs up to at least 417. But I suppose it's a remote possibility.

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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby VotM » 22 Mar 2015, 17:53

suanj wrote:Giuseppa Di Fina arrival with siblings and mother Agostina Catanzaro joining at DI FINA Domenico... last residence: Termini ( Termini Imerese) [...]

Many thanks for that lead! That addresses the real reason behind my question; namely, to find Agostina's surname.
LDS Gioiosa Marea "road map" post at
http://italiangenealogy.com/forum/itali ... logy/33808

LDS Cefalù, Termini Imerese and Villaurea "road map" post at
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/i ... 50#p239255

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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby VotM » 23 Mar 2015, 13:09

Funny thing is, I looked for the Di Fina passenger records some time back. Unfortunately, I used the Ellis island search engine directly. The one on FamilySearch applies the search parameters more leniantly; e.g., it is much more forgiving about whether a space is present between "Di" and "Fina", or whether the "Di" is present at all.
LDS Gioiosa Marea "road map" post at
http://italiangenealogy.com/forum/itali ... logy/33808

LDS Cefalù, Termini Imerese and Villaurea "road map" post at
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/i ... 50#p239255

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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby VotM » 01 Apr 2015, 12:26

OK, I'm getting greedy now... :wink:

If there's anyone who has access to a Termini marriage index who can tell me the year in which Domenico Di Fina and Agostina Catanzaro were married (if they were married there at all), I'd greatly appreciate it. They were married sometime between 1896 and the end of 1905.

At the moment I'm checking the Termini allegati; it's a slow process. I was able to find Domenico's brother's marriage (Salvatore Di Fina) in the allegati for 1896, but so far I've reached 1899 and still have had no luck finding Domenico. Thanks in advance!
LDS Gioiosa Marea "road map" post at
http://italiangenealogy.com/forum/itali ... logy/33808

LDS Cefalù, Termini Imerese and Villaurea "road map" post at
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/i ... 50#p239255

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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby VotM » 04 Apr 2015, 01:11

Turns out I needed a lesson in place names. The Termini birth, marriage, etc. records I was looking for were filed under Villaurea.
LDS Gioiosa Marea "road map" post at
http://italiangenealogy.com/forum/itali ... logy/33808

LDS Cefalù, Termini Imerese and Villaurea "road map" post at
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/i ... 50#p239255

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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby smas1973 » 21 Apr 2015, 16:24

There is a Termini Imerese Database you can join and search.


http://www.termini-imerese.org/
Thank You For All Your Help With The Translation Of This Documents


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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby smas1973 » 22 Apr 2015, 02:30

Matrimonio 2 5 1903 2014483 30 DiFina, Domenico DiFina, Carmelo Citrano, Giuseppa Catanzaro, Agostina Catanzaro, Giovanni Balsamo, Maria Groom born in Cefalu; doc. states Carmelo Catanzaro, b. 7/2/1898 (no. 357), is legitimized
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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby VotM » 22 Apr 2015, 10:05

smas1973 wrote:Matrimonio 2 5 1903 2014483 30 DiFina, Domenico DiFina, Carmelo Citrano, Giuseppa Catanzaro, Agostina Catanzaro, Giovanni Balsamo, Maria Groom born in Cefalu; doc. states Carmelo Catanzaro, b. 7/2/1898 (no. 357), is legitimized
Found it in the LDS Villaurea/Termini records... and a few others further back along the chain as well. Thanks!

If the info above came from the Termini Imerese database, it looks like there was at least one hiccup in transition. The names should read "Agostina Catanzaro, Giovanni Catanzaro, Maria Balsamo". See entry 30 on the link below.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,246013501
LDS Gioiosa Marea "road map" post at
http://italiangenealogy.com/forum/itali ... logy/33808

LDS Cefalù, Termini Imerese and Villaurea "road map" post at
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/i ... 50#p239255

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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby smas1973 » 22 Apr 2015, 12:39

That is what is shown in the database. also she had some sisters and his family names were. DiFina, Domenico DiFina, Carmelo Citrano, Giuseppa in the database.
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Re: Looking for birth records for grandparents from Cefalu

Postby VotM » 22 Apr 2015, 15:06

I'm guessing that's "Di Fina, Domenico; Di Fina, Carmelo; Citrano, Giuseppa".

So far the LDS records have allowed me to push the line back to a prior set of Carmelo & Domenico Di Fina's; can't find when the first Carmelo was born, but his son Domenico was born around 1799. I've also pushed the other lines in Cefalu and Termini leading to Domenico Di Fina and Agostina Catenzaro back as far as the LDS records (and the foundling wheel) allow.

Thank goodness for those Allegati marriage records!


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