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Postby katidid » 23 Jul 2015, 16:40

Gandolfa Laplaca born in Realmonte, Agrigento, Sicilia, Italy Her Husband was Giuseppe
La Vignera or Vigneri born 11 November 1846 Realmonte, Agrigento, Sicilia, Italy

I am trying to locate Gandofa parents name .. And and siblings she might have had..

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Re: Parents Names

Postby Tessa78 » 25 Jul 2015, 15:38

Do you have evidence that Gandolfa Laplaca was born in Realmonte?

From the marriage index of Vincenzo Vigneri, their son, it states that Vincenzo was born in Petralia Soprana [Palermo] ...

Here is the birth in 1883 in Petralia Soprana of Vincenzo Vigneri, son of Giuseppe Vigneri and Gandolfa LaPaca, his wife. Unfortunately, it does not identify the place of birth of the parennts. The father, Giuseppe Vigneri, was not able to present the child to the official because he was outside of the territory...
Vincenzo Antonino Vigneri was born on 27 February at Villa Trinità in Petralia Soprana.

Record #57
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,247838201

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Here is the marriage index...

Giuseppe Vigneri
mentioned in the record of Vincenzo Vigneri and Maria Mogavero
Name: Giuseppe Vigneri
gender:
Male
Wife: Ganwolfa Leplaca
Son: Vincenzo Vigneri
Other information in the record of Vincenzo Vigneri and Maria Mogavero
from New York, New York City Marriage Records
Name: Vincenzo Vigneri
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 02 Mar 1910
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1883
Birthplace: Petralia Soprana

Father's Name: Giuseppe Vigneri
Mother's Name: Ganwolfa Leplaca

Spouse's Name: Maria Mogavero
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 17
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1893
Spouse's Birthplace: Petralia Soprana
Spouse's Father's Name: Antonino Magavero
Spouse's Mother's Name: Carmela Cerami

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Re: Parents Names

Postby katidid » 27 Jul 2015, 18:33

I dont have any evidence that Gandolfa Laplaca was born in Realmonte..

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Re: Parents Names

Postby Tessa78 » 31 Jul 2015, 19:44

katidid wrote:Gandolfa Laplaca born in Realmonte, Agrigento, Sicilia, Italy Her Husband was Giuseppe
La Vignera or Vigneri born 11 November 1846 Realmonte, Agrigento, Sicilia, Italy

I am trying to locate Gandofa parents name .. And and siblings she might have had..


Name: Giuseppe Vignera
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 nov 1846
Birth Place: Realmonte, Agrigento, Italy
Father's Age: 29
Mother's Age: 30
Father: Filippo Vignera
Mother: Giuseppa Sciangula

FHL Film Number: 1568342
Reference ID: 1568342

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... ml_rpos=16

Have not located a marriage record yet for Giuseppe and Gandolfa... or other children born to the couple in Petralia Soprana...

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Postby Tessa78 » 31 Jul 2015, 20:14

Here is the birth act of another of Giuseppe Vigneri and Gandolfa La Placa's children..
Daughter Concetta - born in Petralia Soprana in 1879
Unfortunately, no ages or place of birth given for parents in this record...

#262
Born on 24 November 1879 in Petralia Soprana, at villa Fasanò
Father: Giuseppe Vigneri, peasant farmer
Mother: Gandolfa La Placa, his wife, spinner
Child given the name CONCETTA

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,247838201

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AND another son, Pietro Damiano, born in Petralia Soprana in 1876 on 29 June
Father: Giuseppe Vigneri, age 40, peasant farmer, residing villa Pianello(sp?) #11
Mother: Gandolfa La Placa, spinner, his wife, residing with him
Child given the name PIETRO DAMIANO
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,247838201

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Found a birth record with additional information about Giuseppe and Gandolfa :-)

Another daughter, Petra, born in 1873
#138
Dated 30 June 1873 in Petralia Soprana
Before the official appeared Giuseppe Vigneri, [son of deceased Francesco Paolo] of age 38, peasant farmer residing in this town at quartieri Pianello, to present a female child who he declared was born on 29th day of the above month and year, at noon to his wife, Gandolfa La Placa [daughter of deceased Andrea], of age 22, spinner, residing with him at the house in this town quartieri abovesaid, and this daughter was given the name PETRA

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,247838201

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Re: Parents Names

Postby katidid » 01 Aug 2015, 01:39

Thank you so much!! This is so amazing !! I am a little confused about (son of deceased Francesco Paolo) and (daughter of deceased Andrea) are thoughs people Gandolfa parents? :)

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Re: Parents Names

Postby Tessa78 » 01 Aug 2015, 01:57

In Italian records, a person is named and then further identified by naming that person's father...(and sometimes mother)
In the birth record Giuseppe Vigneri's father was Francesco Paolo Vigneri, who is deceased at the time of Petra's birth.
Gandolfa La Placa's father was Andrea La Placa, who was also deceased at the time of Petra's birth...

Hope that helps :-)

Since Gandolfa La Placa is age 22 in 1873 at the time of her daughter Petra's birth, we can surmise that Gandolfa was born about 1851 to Andrea La Placa (and we do not know her mother's name yet). We have not identfied her place of birth yet, but Petralia Soprana is looking promising... :-)

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Re: Parents Names

Postby katidid » 01 Aug 2015, 03:30

ah oh so Francesco Paolo Vigneri is Filippo Vignera is that like a nick name? :D

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Re: Parents Names

Postby Tessa78 » 01 Aug 2015, 04:13

katidid wrote:ah oh so Francesco Paolo Vigneri is Filippo Vignera is that like a nick name? :D


Filippo could possibly be an error... the above posting for birth of Giuseppe is from an index of births, and not from the actual birth record. Could be a transcription error... It's likely, since the spelling of the surname is Vigneri and not Vignera.. another error...

The name Francesco Paolo Vigneri is what I read from the actual birth record of Petra Vigneri in 1873... so that name is the correct name of Giuseppe Vigneri's father. :-)


***EDIT TO ADD***
Also found another child, Maria Stella Vigneri, born in 1870.
#234
Dated 20 December 1870 - born on the same day.
Father: Giuseppe, 35, peasant farmer, son of deceased Francesco Paolo Vigneri
Mother: Gandolfa La Placa, 25, spinner, his wife, daughter of deceased Andrea La Placa.
Child was given the name MARIA STELLA.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,247838201

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Re: Parents Names

Postby katidid » 05 Aug 2015, 01:52

Thank u so much•• :D this is amazing!


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