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Possible name for Bringley

Postby bring » 23 Jul 2015, 19:48

My Great grandfather immigrated to the US in 1859/1860 from Northern Italy (Liguria, Piedmont, Aosta Valley or east Lombardy). All we know is that he traveled on a French ship. Since there were no papers or passports at that time; the US has his name as Peter Bringley. Can anyone please give me some insight on a possible Italian spelling to the name-from this region? What ports or ships might he of used (passenger? merchant?) he was abt 18 years old.

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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby Tessa78 » 25 Jul 2015, 01:52

It is possible that his named was Bringheli -
which is found in Comune of Milan, Province of Milan, Lombardy Region

It would sound like Bringley :-)

So I think he was Pietro Bringheli...

Where did your GGF live in the US?

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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby suanj » 25 Jul 2015, 06:43

hi, in 1910 census, appearing that Peter was born in France:

Peter Bringley

United States Census, 1910

Name: Peter Bringley
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1910
Event Place: Rochester Ward 4, Monroe, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 65
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1845
Birthplace: France
Immigration Year: 1864
Father's Birthplace: France
Mother's Birthplace: France

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Peter Bringley Head M 65 France

Mary Bringley Wife F 56 Pennsylvania
Joseph Livingston Son-in-law M 40 New York
Ella Livingston Daughter F 38 New York
Joseph Bringley Son M 34 New York
Eugene Bringley Son M 26 New York
Andrew Dever Lodger M 30 Canada

and in 1900 census:


Peter Bringley

United States Census, 1900

Name: Peter Bringley
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Milo Township Penn Yan village Ward 5-6, Yates, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 68
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Years Married: 31
Birth Date: Jan 1832
Birthplace: Italy
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1869
Immigration Year: 1859
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Peter Bringley Head M 68 Italy
Mary Bringley Wife F 48 Pennsylvania
Eugene Bringley Son M 21 New York

1880 census:


Peter Bringley

United States Census, 1880

Name: Peter Bringley
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1880
Event Place: Benton, Yates, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Occupation: Laborer
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Self
Birth Year (Estimated): 1838
Birthplace: Italy
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T9
Affiliate Film Number: 0949

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Peter Bringley Self M 42 Italy
Mary Bringley Wife F 32 Pennsylvania, United States
Ella Bringley Daughter F 10 New York, United States
Joseph Bringley Son M 4 New York, United States
Eugene Bringley Son M 1 New York, United States
John Bringley Son M 5 New York, United States

the discrepance abt birthplace.. I believe that he was born to France border ... so Liguria region, Piedmont region, Aosta Valley region....
if he was born in Aosta Valley, the surname may have French spelling also..
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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby Tessa78 » 25 Jul 2015, 14:31

Great finds, suanj! :-)

So it is possible that the surname is spelled BRINGHEN - which is found in Aosta...
( and also in Piedmont and Liguria region)

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Postby suanj » 25 Jul 2015, 16:05

I believe that, the surname spelling could be BRIGNOLE, Liguria region, Genova area... just my opinion... hugs,
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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby suanj » 25 Jul 2015, 16:44

the 1875 census:


Peter Bingley

New York, State Census, 1875

Name: Peter Bingley
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1875
Event Place: Milo, Yates, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 38
Birth Year (Estimated): 1837
Page: 2

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Peter Bingley M 38
Mary Bingley Wife F 26
Ella Bingley Daughter F 5
John Bingley Son M 1
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Bingley and no Bringley... hmmmm..
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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby Tessa78 » 25 Jul 2015, 17:18

Interesting... on this Civil War Draft Registration in 1863 in Starkey, Yates, New York...
Peter Bringley gives his place of birth as New York... :?

Name: Peter Bringley
Residence: Starkey, Yates, New York
Class: 1
Congressional District: 25th
Age on 1 July 1863: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Race: White
Marital Status: Unmarried (Single)
Place of Birth: New York

http://interactive.ancestry.com/1666/32 ... turnRecord


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And on the 1870 Census in Seneca, Ontario County, New Yor... he lists Italy :-)
Name: Peter Bringley
Age in 1870: 32
Birth Year: abt 1838
Birthplace: Italy
Home in 1870: Seneca, Ontario, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Geneva
Value of Real Estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Bringley 32
Mary Bringley 21
Clara Bringley 5/12
James Murphy 40

***EDIT TO ADD***


I think the joke may be on us!!! :-)

There is a town in Yates County, New York, named Italy!
:lol:

So I believe that Peter Bringley (probably the correct surname) was born in Italy, Yates, New York...

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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby suanj » 25 Jul 2015, 21:27

but in 1910 census he declared France birthplace, and in other censuses he was naturalized US citizen, so he was no born in USA...
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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby suanj » 25 Jul 2015, 21:44

here the marriage record of Eugene Bringley ) born in Pennsylvania).. the father birthplace is France

Eugine Wesley Bringley
mentioned in the record of Eugine Wesley Bringley and Charlotte Mary Livingston

Name: Eugine Wesley Bringley
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Sep 1918
Event Place: , New York, United States
Age: 33
Birth Year (Estimated): 1885
Father's Name: Peter Bringley
Mother's Name: Mary Tobin
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Mary Livingston
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1895
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Livingston
Spouse's Mother's Name: Miller

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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby suanj » 25 Jul 2015, 21:47

ditto for daughter marriage record:
Helen Mary Bringley

mentioned in the record of Joseph M. Livingston and Helen Mary Bringley

Name: Joseph M. Livingston
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 03 Nov 1909
Event Place: , New York, United States
Age: 39
Birth Year (Estimated): 1870
Father's Name: John Livingston
Mother's Name: Mary Miller
Spouse's Name: Helen Mary Bringley
Spouse's Age: 38
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1871
Spouse's Father's Name: Peter Bringley
Spouse's Mother's Name: Mary Tobin
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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby suanj » 25 Jul 2015, 21:49

ditto abt:


Joseph B. Bringley

mentioned in the record of Joseph B. Bringley and Isabelle M. Middleton

Name: Joseph B. Bringley
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 08 Dec 1915
Event Place: , New York, United States
Age: 35
Birth Year (Estimated): 1880
Father's Name: Peter Bringley
Mother's Name: Mary Tobin
Spouse's Name: Isabelle M. Middleton
Spouse's Age: 30
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1885
Spouse's Father's Name: Mathew Middleton
Spouse's Mother's Name: Mcmickin
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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby Tessa78 » 25 Jul 2015, 22:06

Very true! :-)

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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby bring » 26 Jul 2015, 03:39

I just wrote a long Reponses. Does anyone know where in cyber space it is? I would love to retrieve it.

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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby suanj » 26 Jul 2015, 16:46

Hi perhaps I found the 1865 census:


P Bringley

New York, State Census, 1865

Name: P Bringley
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1865
Event Place: Jamestown, District 01, Ellicott, Chautauqua, New York, United States
Relationship to Head of Household: Boarder
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Boarder
Birth Year (Estimated): 1839
Page: 19

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Samples M 48
Elizabeth B Samples Wife F 28
Frank Samples Son M 11
Loyd L Samples Son M 8
Deetta Samples Daughter F 7
Hattie Knapp Servant F 19
Julietta Nichols Servant F 18
P Bringley Boarder M 26
birthplace: Italy
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Re: Possible name for Bringley

Postby suanj » 26 Jul 2015, 16:51

bring wrote:I just wrote a long Reponses. Does anyone know where in cyber space it is? I would love to retrieve it.

that is a problem for me too... so when I write the reply, before of send it, I select all txt, and copy it, and then I send.. to 90% of times, the reply vanished, I must re-write it again,
but now I just paste it, and send it immediately, and no problems...
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