Looking for Ungari / DeVivo from Valenzano, Bari, Italy

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Looking for Ungari / DeVivo from Valenzano, Bari, Italy

Postby forestmaiden71 » 07 Aug 2015, 01:51

I'm looking for any information on either of these surnames. My great grandmother was Angela DeVivo (1891-1940) who married Joseph Ungari (1885-1966) before coming to the US. I only have their parent's names because I found their old Italian passports. But I know nothing else. I have tried looking on FamilySearch and Ancestry but have found nothing prior to them coming to the states. Is there any place else I should try looking that is for English speakers? Sadly I don't know any Italian or Spanish...
Thanks in advance for any/all help! It's so frustrating that it's not that far back!

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Re: Looking for Ungari / DeVivo from Valenzano, Bari, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 08 Aug 2015, 10:18

Here is the publication of Marriage banns act for Giuseppe Ungari and Angela De Vivo in 1908 in Valenzano. :D

#31 - dated 18 June.
Groom: Giuseppe Ungari, single, age 22, shoemaker, son of Raffaele, age 48, chairmaker(?), and of Rocca Lenzzi, housewife, both residing Valenzano
Bride: Angela De Vivo, single, age 16, housewife, daughter of Michele, age 50, shoemaker, and of Francesca Losorelli, housewife.

Banns posted on 21, 28 June, and 2 July.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1015664001

POSSIBLE birth act for Raffaele Ungari in 1860 in Valenzano :D
Record #4 - dated 10 January 1860
Birth on 8 January
Father: Giuseppe Ungari, 40, peasant farmer son of deceased Nicola.
Mother: Rosa Lonigro, 40, his wife, daughter of deceased Raffaele
Child given the name Raffaele

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

POSSIBLE birth act for Rocca Lenzzi in 1860 :D
Record #51 - dated 6 May 1860 in Valenzano
Birth on 5 May
Father: Vito Lenzzi, 28, peasant farmer, son of deceased Giuseppe
Mother: Rosa D'Aloia, 25, his wife, daughter of deceased Pasquale.
Child given the name Rocca Maria

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Re: Looking for Ungari / DeVivo from Valenzano, Bari, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 08 Aug 2015, 10:55

Possible birth act for Francesca Losorelli (mother of Angela De Vivo) in 1863, in Valenzano. :D

Record #33 - dated 5 April 1863.... Birth on same day
Father: Nicola Losorelli, 40, peasant farmer son of deceased Francesco
Mother: Teresa De Santis, his wife, daughter of Luca
Child given the name Francesca
Notation on record of Francesca's marriage to Michele De Vivo on 8 May 1884 in Valenzano
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Marriage of Michele De Vivo and Francesca Losorelli in 1884. :D

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Birth of Michele De Vivo in 1862 in Valenzano
#128 _ dated 6 December 1862
Born on 5 December
Father: Nicola De Vivo, 32, carpenter, son of Michele
Mother: Angela Sardone, 32, his wife, daughter of Francesco
Child given the name Michele

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 9.jpg.html

****AND****

Marriage Promise of Nicolantonio De Vivo and Angela Sardone in 1855 :D

Record #18 - dated 24 August 1855
Groom: Nicolantonio De Vivo, 28, carpenter, son of Michele, carpenter; and of deceased Anna De Filippi
Bride: Angela Sardone, 26, spinner, daughter of Francesco, shoemaker, and of Chiara De Frenza(?), spinner
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

**** Birth of Niccol'Antonio De Vivo in 1827... :D
Record #97 _ dated 25 September... Birth on 23 September
Father: Michele De Vivo, 28, carpenter, son of deceased Niccola
Mother: Anna De Filippi, 30, his wife, daughter of deceased Rocco
Child given the name Niccol'Antonio

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0


These records give you several generations further back in your De Vivo and Ungari families
:D :D :D

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Re: Looking for Ungari / DeVivo from Valenzano, Bari, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 08 Aug 2015, 15:56

And more on the Ungari side :-)

Birth of Giuseppe Antonio Ungari (grandfather of Giuseppe Ungari who married Angela De Vivo) in 1919 in Valenzano... :D

#106 - dated 18 September 1919
Birth on 17 September
Father: Nicola Ungari [son of deceased Giuseppe Ungari], age 23, peasant farmer residing in the town.
Mother: Maria Campanelli [daughter of Giovanni], his wife, age 23, residing with him.
Child was given the name Giuseppe Antonio

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0


So far we have found:


Giuseppe Ungari - B.~ 1886 [married to Angela De Vivo]
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Raffaele Ungari - B. 1860 [married to Rocca Maria Lenzzi]
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Giuseppe Ungari - B. 1919 [married to Rosa Lonigro]
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Nicola Ungari - B ~~ 1796
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Giuseppe Ungari - B. ~~ 1770+/-

**AND *** on the De Vivo Side...

Marriage Act of Michele De Vivo and Anna De Filippo in 1822 (great grandparents of Angela De Vivo)
Record #5 - dated 9 February 1822
Groom: Michelangelo Pasquale De Vivo, age 23, son of deceased Nicola De Vivo, and of Natalisia Xxxivo(?).
Bride: Anna De Filippo, age 27, daughter of Rocco and of Rosaria di Simini(?)

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Giving us...

Angela De Vivo - B. 1891/1892
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Michele De Vivo - B. 1862 [married to Francesca Losorelli]
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Nicola De Vivo - B. 1827 [married to Angela Sardone]
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Michele De Vivo - B. ~~ 1799 [married to Anna De Filippo]
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Nicola De Vivo - B. ~~ 1760 to 1775 (deceased at marriage of Michele in 1822)
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Michele De Vivo - B. ~~ before 1760? (grandfather of Michele De Vivo/b. 1799 - mentioned in documents presented for his marriage to Anna De Filippo)

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Re: Looking for Ungari / DeVivo from Valenzano, Bari, Italy

Postby forestmaiden71 » 10 Aug 2015, 22:07

You are AMAZING! Thank you SOOO VERY MUCH!

Quick question - I notice names like Nicola and Michele are shortened versions of longer names (Niccol'Antonio for one and Michelangelo for the other). Is this always the case? Like, are all Nicolas really Niccolantonios?

Thanks again! This was amazingly helpful!

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Re: Looking for Ungari / DeVivo from Valenzano, Bari, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 11 Aug 2015, 02:25

Sometimes the shortened names are used like a nickname...or how they are known.
However, Nicola and Michele are also given names in and of themselves.
You have to see the official birth record to know the actual given name :-)

Glad to have helped! :-)

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