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Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby Geriz » 07 Aug 2015, 23:14

Looking for any info about my grandmother Maria Grazia Tardio Scelza
She was born Feb 24 1890 possible in Valle Della Lucania or Salvitelle
She married Gaetano Scelza and arrived in NY in 1919 and settled in New Rochelle NY

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Re: Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby adelfio » 08 Aug 2015, 02:41

Birth record of Maria Grazia Tardio
Index#28
1889 Feb 24th in the town of Valle Della Lucania house on via Santo Pietro birth of Maria Grazia Tardio daughter of Francesco Tardio age 34 farmer and Teresa Maiese

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Re: Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby Tessa78 » 08 Aug 2015, 02:51

Possible arrival of Grazia Tardio in December 1920
Traveling with children...Antonio (8), Carolina (3), Antonio (11 months) Scelzo
Leaving mother, Teresa, in Valle Lucania
Going to Husband, Gaetano Scelzo, in New Rochelle, NY
Grazia (and her children) list their Place of Birth as MASSA... :?: :?:

Name: Grazia Tardia
Arrival Date: 13 Dec 1920
Birth Date: 1890
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: masza
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Italian (South)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Presidente Wilson


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Marriage of Gaetano Scelza and Maria Grazia Tardio in V. Lucania in 1912 :-)
Marriage on 20 April 1912, publication of banns on 7 and 14 April.
Gaetano was 22, peasant farmer, son of Antonio [Scelza] and Carolina Novelli
Maria Grazia was 22, born in Massa, daughter of deceased Francesco [Tardio] and of living Teresa Maiese.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,246666001

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Re: Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby Biff83 » 08 Aug 2015, 02:56

Hi T.!

In checking, I found that Massa is a frazione in Vallo della Lucania.

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Re: Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby Tessa78 » 08 Aug 2015, 02:58

Biff83 wrote:Hi T.!

In checking, I found that Massa is a frazione in Valla della Lucania.

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Thanks, BIff! :-)

I thought that might be the explanation...
Born in Massa shows up on her marriage record above :-)

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Re: Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby Geriz » 09 Aug 2015, 04:07

Thank you all.
This is my grandmother and my aunt and uncle.
Didn't know there was a second son.
I have been trying to find out my great grandparent names and you have provided this info

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Re: Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby Tessa78 » 09 Aug 2015, 16:47

Geriz wrote:Thank you all.
This is my grandmother and my aunt and uncle.
Didn't know there was a second son.
I have been trying to find out my great grandparent names and you have provided this info


Here is another generation back in the Tardio family
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Death of Maria Grazia Tardio's father, Francesco Tardio, in 1894 in V. Lucania
#37 - dated 19 March 1894
Death occurred on 18 March 1894 at 4:40 PM at the house in Via San Pietro.
Francesco Tardio was age 42, a peasant farmer who was born in Massa, and resided in Massa. He was the son of deceased Angelo [Tardio] a peasant farmer who resided in Massa; and of deceased Fortunata Labruna who also resided in Massa.
Francesco was the husband of Teresa Maiese.
Making the declaration of his death at the town office were Angelo Palladino, 28, mason; and Luigi Puglia, 38, peasant farmer.
Witnesses to the recording of the death were Giuseppe Giannattasio, 27, PF; and Angelo Di Sevo, 28, PF.

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Re: Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby Geriz » 09 Aug 2015, 17:38

Thank you for this additional info.
Is it possible to get a birth record for the infant named Antonio Scelza.
We have no info on this child but we do have info on the older boy also named Antonio. Could it be that this baby who they refer to on the ship records was listed by a middle name.
I think that first son was named after the paternal grandfather and a second son after the maternal grandfather, so maybe the child was really Francesco Antonio.

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Re: Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby Tessa78 » 09 Aug 2015, 19:39

The online records for births only go through 1911...

You can write directly to the Comune of Vallo della Lucania to request this child's birth act. You can provide an approx. year (1919-1920) and the name of the parents.

There is no charge for this record. However, you should include a Photo ID, and an email in case they need to contact you. Including a self-addressed UNSTAMPED envelope is a nice courtesy :-)

Address:
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Piazza Vittorio Emanuele, 44
84078 Vallo della Lucania (SA)
Italy


Help with letters of request in Italian...
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... tter3.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... talrecords

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Re: Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby Geriz » 09 Aug 2015, 21:06

Hi Tessa,
Thanks for all the info you have provided,
It seems that I get one questioned answered, and that leads to two more.
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Re: Help finding info about my grandmother

Postby Tessa78 » 09 Aug 2015, 22:15

That's Genealogy !!! :-)

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