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Gandinos from Napoli

Postby amarino81 » 26 Aug 2015, 01:27

Hi everyone,

Does anyone know of a site to search birth records in Napoli? I am trying to track my G-grandfather back to his town.
The facts I know are:
James (Giuseppe) Gandino (sometimes noted as Gardino)
Born 8 Mar 1871 in Napoli
Came to the US around 1884 and moved to Williamsburg/Greenpoint Brooklyn
Naturalized 23 May 1921
Married Rosa and had a bunch of kids (Madeline/Maddalana = my grandmother).

Naturalization docs: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... sePUB=true

1910 census: http://interactive.ancestry.com/7884/44 ... 0434/facts

Any help is appreciated. I am also looking to locate his immigration ship manifest.

Thanks!

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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby Italysearcher » 26 Aug 2015, 10:19

Both Gandino and Gaudino can be found in Naples today. Gaudino is more numerous.
Naples is divided into 12 sections and the records are filed by section. Not all sections are on line. Those that are can be found at http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/en
You really need to locate the ship manifest. If the folks here can't find it try lostquays@ymail.com. She can find anything!
You might also want to be aware that many Italians called Vincenzo ended up being known as James in America.
If he married Rosa in America then look for his Catholic marriage record. It should provide the parish of baptism which will help you locate the section of Naples where he was born.
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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby suanj » 26 Aug 2015, 10:27

Hi, here the marriage, with parent's names:


James Gandino

mentioned in the record of James Gandino and Rosina Alba

Name James Gandino
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 10 Nov 1894
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 24
Marital Status Single
Race White
Birth Year (Estimated) 1870
Birthplace Italy
Father's Name Alfonso
Mother's Name Madalena Paola
Spouse's Name Rosina Alba
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 22
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Race White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1872
Spouse's Birthplace Italy
Spouse's Father's Name Francesco
Spouse's Mother's Name Maria Malia
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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby suanj » 26 Aug 2015, 10:32

The arrival of the Gandino ( or Gaudino) family:

Alfonso Gandino
New York, Passenger Lists
Name Alfonso Gandino
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1880
Event Place New York City, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 41
Birth Year (Estimated) 1839
Birthplace Italy
Ship Name Castalia

Alfonso Gandino 41 old
Maddalena Gagliardi 43 old
Giuseppe Gandino 12 old
Marianna Gandino 10 old

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5P9Z-WT
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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby amarino81 » 26 Aug 2015, 17:20

suanj wrote:Hi, here the marriage, with parent's names:


James Gandino

mentioned in the record of James Gandino and Rosina Alba

Name James Gandino
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 10 Nov 1894
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 24
Marital Status Single
Race White
Birth Year (Estimated) 1870
Birthplace Italy
Father's Name Alfonso
Mother's Name Madalena Paola
Spouse's Name Rosina Alba
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 22
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Race White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1872
Spouse's Birthplace Italy
Spouse's Father's Name Francesco
Spouse's Mother's Name Maria Malia
maybe helpful,
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Thank you for the help. Their ages look a couple of yrs off and I think they might have been married in Brooklyn. Do you know if the info you pulled matches this record?
Name James Gandino
Marriage Date 1894
Marriage Place Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Certificate Number 15121
Other Comments See Family History Library catalog for films 1543971-1562446 (Manhattan) and Film 1653852 (Brooklyn), for actual certificate.
Source Marriage Registers, Extracts from Manhattan (1869-1880) and Brooklyn (1895-1897)
Publisher Dept. of Health, Division of Vital Statistics, New York.
Publication Place New York, NY
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... sePUB=true

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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby suanj » 26 Aug 2015, 17:49

the certificate number is the same; by another website, the surname transcription is Gaudino, but surely it is the same person of my previous post...
Gaudino James Nov 10 1894 15121 (1894) Manhattan 1493126 Alba, Rosina
http://www.stevemorse.org/vital/nymarri ... ndex=groom
abt Brooklyn or Manhattan, marriage place, I don't know why this discrepance, but name of groom and name of bride is ok...
Gandino, James Spouse : Unknown
Date/Year of Marriage : 1894
Location : Brooklyn
County : Kings
* Certificate Number : 15121

http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse. ... G/G.2.html

abt the age.. I believe that James declared 1870 as birthyear, maybe for some reason...
no doubt that the record is abt your ancestor...
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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby suanj » 26 Aug 2015, 18:21

James named the oldest son as his father, Alphonso ( =Alfonso): the marriage record is right... on 1910 census also the James birthyear is wrong... but that is a normal error on these records.. the problem, now, is to find the italian birthplace....

James Gardino
United States Census, 1910
Name James Gardino
Event Type Census
Event Year 1910
Event Place Brooklyn Ward 14, Kings, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 36
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1874
Birthplace Italy
Immigration Year 1890
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Italy

Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

James Gardino Head M 36 Italy
Rose Gardino Wife F 32 Italy
Alphonso Gardino Son M 14 New York
Katherine Gardino Daughter F 13 New York
Nunzio Gardino Son M 12 New York
James Gardino Son M 11 New York
Louis Gardino Son M 9 New York
Joseph Gardino Son M 0 New York

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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby amarino81 » 26 Aug 2015, 18:35

suanj wrote:James named the oldest son as his father, Alphonso ( =Alfonso): the marriage record is right... on 1910 census also the James birthyear is wrong... but that is a normal error on these records.. the problem, now, is to find the italian birthplace....

James Gardino
United States Census, 1910
Name James Gardino
Event Type Census
Event Year 1910
Event Place Brooklyn Ward 14, Kings, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 36
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1874
Birthplace Italy
Immigration Year 1890
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Italy

Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

James Gardino Head M 36 Italy
Rose Gardino Wife F 32 Italy
Alphonso Gardino Son M 14 New York
Katherine Gardino Daughter F 13 New York
Nunzio Gardino Son M 12 New York
James Gardino Son M 11 New York
Louis Gardino Son M 9 New York
Joseph Gardino Son M 0 New York

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M54T-ZDC
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I think you are absolutely correct. We had a couple of Alfonso's in my family that I can remember. I am trying to search the Napoli resource Italysearcher linked but so far not turning up much.

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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby amarino81 » 27 Aug 2015, 01:19

Found a bunch of Gandinos. The immigration yr is a few yrs off though
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-RW2M-H

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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby amarino81 » 27 Aug 2015, 07:37

amarino81 wrote:
suanj wrote:James named the oldest son as his father, Alphonso ( =Alfonso): the marriage record is right... on 1910 census also the James birthyear is wrong... but that is a normal error on these records.. the problem, now, is to find the italian birthplace....

James Gardino
United States Census, 1910
Name James Gardino
Event Type Census
Event Year 1910
Event Place Brooklyn Ward 14, Kings, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 36
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1874
Birthplace Italy
Immigration Year 1890
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Italy

Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

James Gardino Head M 36 Italy
Rose Gardino Wife F 32 Italy
Alphonso Gardino Son M 14 New York
Katherine Gardino Daughter F 13 New York
Nunzio Gardino Son M 12 New York
James Gardino Son M 11 New York
Louis Gardino Son M 9 New York
Joseph Gardino Son M 0 New York

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M54T-ZDC
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I think I found their ship manifest. The last name is Gaudino and Guiseppe (James) is with his mom Maddalena and dad Alfonso. Unfortunately not a ton of info on the manifest. Can anyone help find additional info, or have an idea how to search Naples records?
http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... d=11653214

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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby suanj » 27 Aug 2015, 07:50

suanj wrote:The arrival of the Gandino ( or Gaudino) family:

Alfonso Gandino
New York, Passenger Lists
Name Alfonso Gandino
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1880
Event Place New York City, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 41
Birth Year (Estimated) 1839
Birthplace Italy
Ship Name Castalia

Alfonso Gandino 41 old
Maddalena Gagliardi 43 old
Giuseppe Gandino 12 old
Marianna Gandino 10 old

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5P9Z-WT
I believe right family...
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this is the ship's manifest.. the transcription of surname depend from website.. but it is necessary always a direct reading, and I am sure that is your ancestor arrival..
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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby amarino81 » 27 Aug 2015, 18:41

Thank you suanj.

I wonder if this record has any relation: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9S-7JFN


Name Giovanni Antonio Pasquale Gaudino
Event Type Birth
Event Date 13 Jun 1863
Event Place Quartiere Avvocata, Napoli, Napoli, Italy
Gender Male
Father's Name Alfonso Gaudino
Mother's Name Maddalena Bavaro
Certificate Number 552

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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby suanj » 27 Aug 2015, 21:05

No! This is another person, your ancestor was born on 1871... birthplace...unknown... father Alfonso and mother maddalena nee Gagliardi no Bavaro... I also seen this record, but it is no your ancestor...
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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby amarino81 » 30 Aug 2015, 21:46

I was able to find my family on the 1920 census (surname was indexed wrong - Caudino) and my grandmother's brother's booking at Sing Sing prison. Still no luck finding the Italian records suanj found immigrating to the US in 1880. Anyone have any ideas where to search. I am 99% sure my grandmother told me they came from Napoli.

1920 census:
http://interactive.ancestry.com/6061/43 ... sePUB=true

Name James Caudino
Age 49
Birth Year abt 1871
Birthplace Italy
Home in 1920 Brooklyn Assembly District 14, Kings, New York
Street North 8th Street
Race White
Gender Male
Immigration Year 1880
Relation to Head of House Head
Marital Status Married
Spouse's Name Rosalia Caudino
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Italy
Native Tongue Italian
Able to Speak English Yes
Occupation Shoe Maker
Industry (Own Shop)
Employment Field Own Account
Naturalization Status Papers Submitted
Attended School No
Household Members
Name Age
James Caudino 49
Rosalia Caudino 43
Albert Caudino 22
Concetta Caudino 20
Nunzio Caudino 19
Gennarino Caudino 18
Louis Caudino 17
Dominick Caudino 7
Madalen Caudino 5
Tommy Pesinano 4


Name: Nunzio Gandino
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1901
Birth Place: New York
Admission Date: 12 Jul 1922
Admission Place: Ossining, Westchester, New York, USA
Sentence Date: 10 Jul 1922
Place Received From: Brooklyn, Kings

http://interactive.ancestry.com/8922/42 ... sePUB=true

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Re: Gandinos from Napoli

Postby amarino81 » 04 Sep 2015, 06:55

suanj wrote:No! This is another person, your ancestor was born on 1871... birthplace...unknown... father Alfonso and mother maddalena nee Gagliardi no Bavaro... I also seen this record, but it is no your ancestor...
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I found a census from 1900 which has an Alfonso Gandino, born around 1839. He is older and lives with his wife (her name is very hard to read), born around 1844 and 1 child (of 6 total). Think this matches the Alfonso you found?
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... ml_rpos=33


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