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Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby tmangino » 17 Sep 2015, 07:18

I could use more help on locating birth/siblings/parent records on Alessandro DeMarzio.
He was born on Oct 17, 1894 in Dragoni, Caserta, Italy according to a military record found when he moved to Schenectady, New York.

Possible DOB 1894, 1895, 1896

I cannot seem to find any immigration records or other info. I know alternate names are Alexander.

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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby luigirusso007 » 17 Sep 2015, 13:50

Marzio Alessandro Pasquale, born in Dragoni 17 ottobre 1894 by Gregorio and Vincenza Rotondo.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349509901

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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby PippoM » 17 Sep 2015, 13:51

Hello!
This is Alessandro Marzio (without "di") Ellis Island Manifest:

http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7

of his travel in 1911.

And this is his birth record in Dragoni:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349509901
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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby PippoM » 17 Sep 2015, 13:54

Full name: Alessandro Pasquale Marzio
Born on Oct 17th, 1894 at 5 pm in via delle Grazie
Father: Gregorio, 50 years old, peasant
Mother: Vincenza Rotondo, peasant
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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby luigirusso007 » 17 Sep 2015, 13:55

Marzio Alessandro Pasquale, born in Dragoni 17 ottobre 1894 by Gregorio and Vincenza Rotondo.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349509901

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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby tmangino » 17 Sep 2015, 19:32

Thank you Pippo,

Is there any significance or reason he would have changed his name from Marzio to DeMarzio after moving to the U.S.?

This is 100% confirmed his document https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXB8-K85

Also is it normal his mother has a different last name, or is it likely they weren't married?

Thank you again

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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby adelfio » 17 Sep 2015, 21:40

That is her maiden name which they use in Italian records in birth marriage and death records do you have a different maiden in a different record you can post
Sometimes there are so many with the same name in a town they use a de or di or del to know which is which

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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby tmangino » 18 Sep 2015, 06:30

No, I don't have another record. My family actually never knew the parents names or any relatives. From what I am told, my family believed he was adopted and/or brought up by another family. We thought he was from Rome as well until I decided to do some research on it.

I am going to see if I can find the parents birth/marriage/death records next.

On line 18 of the ship manifest (link above) it asks if you are joining a relative. I believe it says sister? But i can't really read it does anyone have any idea if thats what it says and what the name is? Almost looks like caterina.

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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby PippoM » 18 Sep 2015, 09:41

This is Ellis Island manifest for Maria Caterina Marzio, who arrived Dec 7th, 1907:

http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7

She left father Gregorio in Dragoni and was going to Schenectady.
I'm sorry I think the first page for that manifest can't be seen from that link. I got it, but now I can't post it. I hope someone else can do it.

This is her passport application:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVJG-PPMZ

And this is her grave:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... =132963297

Notice that her maiden name seems not to be written on the stone.
So, maybe the user who posted the photo knew who she was. You might want to contact him/her for further info.
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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby PippoM » 18 Sep 2015, 09:53

This is the birth record for Maria Caterina Carmela Marzio, born May 5th, 1883:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349509901

She was the daughter of Gregorio.
There seem to be two inconsistencies:
Gregorio here is said to be 31 in 1883, while 50 in 1894.
But this is very common in such records.
Second, mother's name is Maria Cecere. But she might have died before 1894, and he married Vincenza Rotondo.
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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby PippoM » 18 Sep 2015, 10:34

And this is the marriage of Gregorio Marzio and Vincenza Rotondo, that took place on Dec 15th, 1893.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349509901

He was 39, a peasant, born and living in Dragoni, son of unknown parents.
She was 26, a peasant, the daughter of Alessandro and Maria Diana (?)
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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby PippoM » 18 Sep 2015, 10:36

Ti chiedo scusa Luigi Russo, ma non mi è stato notificato, come avviene di solito, che era stato inserito un post prima del mio!
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Re: Help with Dragoni Italy

Postby luigirusso007 » 18 Sep 2015, 12:13

Ciao PippoM, non preoccuparti, può capitare. Io non ho visto subito il mio post e non ho continuato. Poi ho visto che stavi rispondendo tu ed ho lasciato perdere.
Quando ho visto che non c'erano risposte stavo proprio vedendo il Comune di Dragoni (per un altra ricerca) ed ho trovato il primo atto di nascita.
Complimenti comunque!


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