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Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby andieh69 » 14 Nov 2015, 17:30

Hi I am searching for birth records for Rosa Carbone and Giuseppe Farace from Altavilla Milica Sicily.

I am also having a difficult time finding birth and or marriage records for Pietro Leone and Josephine Antonucci and Carlo Tatti and Lucia Cellone (sp?) from L'Aquila Abruzzo. Where is the best place to search for Abruzzo records? Some of the records I've tried to access appear restricted. Thank you in advance

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Postby Marcello_DAleo » 14 Nov 2015, 19:41

Do you can provide mr details, please? For example, their approximate year of birth...
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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby andieh69 » 15 Nov 2015, 07:18

I would really be guessing on years of all names listed but based on their children's years of birth, perhaps late 1850s to 1870s?

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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby Tessa78 » 15 Nov 2015, 12:55

Possible birth act of (#110) Rosa Carbone in Altavilla Milicia, Palermo in 1867
Father... Filippo Carbone, 23, laborer
Mother... Chiara Mannina(?), 19, his wife
Child born on 20 November
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947613

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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby andieh69 » 15 Nov 2015, 16:58

Wow I could never have found this because I don't speak the language. Thank you!!
Is there a way to tell if this is really them.. Not sure how common those names were, but the years kind of make sense.

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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby Tessa78 » 16 Nov 2015, 01:13

andieh69 wrote:Wow I could never have found this because I don't speak the language. Thank you!!
Is there a way to tell if this is really them.. Not sure how common those names were, but the years kind of make sense.


We have to verify the parents' names with other documents.
I have been searching for a marriage for Rosa Carbone in Altavilla Milicia, since marriages usually took place in the hometown of the bride.
Unfortunately, I have not found anything yet.

Can you provide the names and years of birth for the children of Rosa Carbone and Giuseppe Farace? That may help.
Did any of the children immigrate?

EDIT TO ADD***
Located the marriage of Rosa Carbone and Giuseppe Farace in 1900 :-)
The birth record above is NOT your Rosa...

Record #27
Dated 7 October 1900 in Altavilla Milicia
Groom: Giuseppe Farace, age 36 (DOB about 1864), peasant farmer born and residing in Altavilla; son of Giorgio [Farace] and of deceased Sebastiana Bansamo(sp?)
Bride: Rosa Carbone, age 26 (DOB about 1874), born and residing in Altavilla; daughter of deceased Vincenzo [Carbone] and of Ignazia Costa.
The banns of marriage were posted on 23 and 30 September of the current year.
At this marriage the spouses presented testimony that they wish to have recognized two children born to them. The first, born 22 February 1897, and given the name Sebastiana; and the second, born 16 May 1899, and given the name Ignazia.

Left side of image in this link.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947613

AND... Here is the correct birth record for Rosa Carbone in 1874 book of births
#10 (bottom right of the link below)
Dated 11 January 1874 - Actual birth on 10 December 1873 (this is in the body of the document.
Father: Vincenzo Carbone, age 39, son of Antonino Carbone
Mother: Ignazia Costa, age 28, his wife, daughter of Filippo
Child given the name ROSA
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947613

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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby andieh69 » 16 Nov 2015, 02:23

My grandmother was Sebastiana Farace and she was born in 1897....and this Rosa was married in 1900???? Am I reading this right...children born out of wedlock? I have heard from an elderly aunt that there was also a brother and then I have also been told there were 11 children total but I really have no idea.

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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby Tessa78 » 16 Nov 2015, 02:40

These two girls were born before the civil marriage took place.
HOWEVER, it is very posssible (and somewhat common at the time) that the couple was married in a church ceremony prior to the birth of the children.

Here is the birth act of Ignazia in 1899
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947613

Here is the birth act of Sebastiana in 1897 --- with a notation of her marriage on 25 May 1919 to Salvatore Baiardo(sp?)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947613

There may be a brother, and I will look for his birth AFTER 1900 :-)
As well as other children. Records online only go to 1910...

I have been searching for Giuseppe's birth act in 1863-1865 - no luck yet :-(

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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby andieh69 » 16 Nov 2015, 02:44

Hmm, maybe he was born before that...in that case where else can I look as the records begin in 1862, or maybe not in Altavilla? Also I believe that Giuseppe's mother Sebastiana's maiden name may be Bausano... the other side of the family also had Bausano's...I'm starting to think everyone in Altavilla was related. LOL.... I have been told there was a brother and he or his sons were police officers but no one knows his name.

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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby Tessa78 » 16 Nov 2015, 02:50

Just posted the birth acts of the girls - including your GM :-)

Bausano was my thought as well...

On the marriage of Giuseppe and Rosa it indicates that he was born in Altavilla :-)

Earlier records (beginning in 1821) are available on microfilm from the LDS.
You can rent and view at the nearest LDS Family History Center.
Here is the link to the films... scroll down
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... %20Library

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Birth Act of Giuseppe Farace in Altavilla Milicia in 1863
Dated 3 December 1863 - born same day
Father: Giorgio, 36, farmer
Mother: Sebastiana Bausano, 24
Right side (#121) and following pages
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947613

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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby Tessa78 » 16 Nov 2015, 03:46

Death act of Sebstiana Bausano in 1899
#110
dated 27 November 1899 - death on 26th
Sebastiana Bausano, age 71, daughter of deceased Giuseppe Bausano; and of deceased Pietra La Marca; wife of Giorgio Farace
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947613

Here is a son of Giuseppe Farace and Rosa Carbone ---
This is his death in 1892 (#13)
He was age 1 year and 3 months. His name was Giorgio.
Date of death was 8 February 1892.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947613

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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby andieh69 » 16 Nov 2015, 04:02

Thank you! This is fantastic, I can't believe you can do this so fast

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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby Tessa78 » 16 Nov 2015, 04:17

Did you get the death act for their son, Giorgio? I just posted it.

Here is the birth act for Giorgio
#179
Dated 6 November 1890, born same day
Father: Giuseppe Farace, age 27, peasant farmer
Mother: Rosa Carbone, age 16
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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby Tessa78 » 16 Nov 2015, 04:44

POSSIBLE birth of your Carlo Tatti

#1
Dated 8 January 1855 in Opi
Father: Raffaele Tatti, 32
Mother: Lucia Gentile, 29, his wife
Child given the name Carlo Liborio [Tatti]
Baptism on 9 January at the Parish church in Opi (notation in right column
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 8.jpg.html

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Birth of Pietro Leone in Opi in 1854
#5
Born on 3 May 1854
Father: Pasquale Leone, 26, laborer
Mother: Palma Rosa Sgammotta, 30, spinner
Child given the name Pietro
Baptism on 4 May
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 8.jpg.html


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Re: Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

Postby andieh69 » 16 Nov 2015, 05:45

Wow I guess we will know for sure if this is the same Carlo if he married Lucia cellone and had daughtes named nunziata and Elisabetta. Also if this Pietro leone married Josephine and gave birth to palmerino we know it's right for sure. You are amazingly kind to help in this way.. Thank you is not enough


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