I found a new piece, a birth record for a Mariana Giancola, 07-27-1892, Boston, Suffolk County, parents Angelo and Annunciata.
On the ship manifest when the family lived in Brazil it lists
Angelo Giancola, age 36, (born about 1862), wife Nunziata, age 34, son Nicolino age 11, daughter Carmela age 9, daughter Marietta age 1 born in Brazil, all going to Boston arriving 1898.
Also Angelo travels alone in 1894 Italy to Boston from Campobasso.
So my question is why cant I find them in the US census? Who is this Mariana, why isnt she on the ship manifest from Brazil? They lived originally in Italy, moved to Boston for a few years, then Brazil, then back to Boston, does this make sense?
I sent for the marriage record for Carmela and my great grandfather, in 1910 in Boston, maybe that will help.
Thank-you to anyone who can shed some light on this,
Correct me if I am mistaken...but didn't we attempt to find census info
previously........??...........perhaps the name is badly mispelled.....where should they be in 1910, 20 and 30??
We have many more posters with census access........perhaps this time
we will locate them...... wldspirit
The other Genola has a wife listed as Nora, kids Mary, John, Michael, Nellie.
Angelo's wife should either be a Nancy or Nunziata, Nunsiata, Annunsiata etc...
Did find a Angelo Giancolas (something like that) in Ohio, 1900, as a boarder, profession -painter... married for 17 years... does not list any of the family. The boarder with him is also a painter. Born Oct. 1959.. just going on memory here...
I have not been able to find them in Suffolk....for the above family
I used search criteria of Angelo, no surname, born in Italy, approximate birth year...and that is as close as I came....... elusive family............
Just back from the library. Its looks like a good match on the 1910 census for Angelo Genola, I know its Nora, but at least it does start with the same letter "N" as Nunziata. The image is really hard to read!
Carmela and Nicolino listed on the ship manifest are moved out and married, Marietta is probably Mary on the census, right age. (I think it says S. Am on her line for South America.
Then the new children John, Michael and Nellie (I know Carmela had a daughter called Nellie also)
Immigration 1891 makes sense, although I havent found that ship yet.
After it says number 24 (years married I think), it then says the number 10 for number of children. I am missing 3 children, maybe they died.
I'll have to look at the 1920 cenus record found too for Chelsea, I bet its a match. Now that I have some "American names" maybe I can write for the death certificates or try and find them at the cemetary.
edit: I looked at the Gingoma and its a match to the same family, and it shows daughter Mary as a married neighbor born in Brazil, right age.
I dont know which name to use to ask for death records, I guess Giancola with Nora, and I have no idea on date of death. I'll see how it goes. I wonder why I cant find them in the LDS search for Italy.
From Annunziata, Nunziata to Nora... go figure! 8O
Name: Angelo Grudoma
Age: 58Ã‚Â yearsÃ‚Â
Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Birthplace: Italy Race: White Home in 1920: Chelsea Ward 5, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Home owned: Own Sex: Male Marital status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Year of immigration: 1891 Able to read: No Able to Write: No http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5175/gingoma2kw.jpg
If he owned his own home where do I find those records? What will they say?
I tried browsing the 1930 census using Heritage quest and after going through 200 pages for Chelsea Ward 5, it seemed to skip over 768 Broadway! Couldnt believe it. Found out yesterday I can access the census through my library card!
I checked LDS through all the Carmelas and all the Giancolas and came up with nothing. I'll write to the town of Chelsea today and try and get certificates.
I could never have done all this without you guys!
The sad part is my DH is going to Italy in a few days without me! He is going on a family trip (his mother and sisters from Ireland) to Rome. I get to stay home with 3 small kids and 2 dogs.
Maybe it's just me..... ....but in putting together my families past
I have pulled everything in way of records I could get my hands on...I even have the plat map of the cupi coal mine, when it was bought and sold....even though I knew where it was.....something to pass on to the next generation. And all records contain bits and pieces of info.....some are handy to have...others just interesting.
Here is a good link describing the multitude of records one can research........
http://www.genealogy.com/00000668.html ( for land )