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demaria or pronesti family in calabria...

Postby js1228 » 08 Mar 2016, 21:38

Hello -
After much family research, I am hoping to visit Calabria this summer. I am looking to get any information on living relatives that we may be able to get in touch with when we are there.

My great-grandparents were Carmelo DeMaria and Angela Pronesti, both of Calabria. I believe he was from Molochio and her family was from Radicena. Here is some additional information...

Carmelo DeMaria (born 1884)
Father: Frank (?) DeMaria
Mother: Catherine Mustico

Angela Pronesti (born 1885)
Father: Frank Pronesti
Mother: Maria Faletti

Any assistance or ideas on how I can get more information would be greatly appreciated. '
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Re: demaria or pronesti family in calabria...

Postby Tessa78 » 09 Mar 2016, 01:30

Hi Jenn!

There are currently 6 listings for Demaria (and two are Carmelo!) In the Italian Phone book in Molochio, Reggio Calabria.
http://www.paginebianche.it/eng/ricerca ... o+%28RC%29

And 46 listings for Pronesti in Taurianova (Radicena name was changed in 1928)

http://www.paginebianche.it/eng/ricerca ... a+%28RC%29

You might want write to these potential relatives...
Help with letters...
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... etter.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... #relatives

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Postby suanj » 09 Mar 2016, 05:51

Hi,
Carmelo Demaria was born in Molochio on 30 May 1884 #44, son of Francesco Demaria 42 old and Caterina Mustica, 35 old


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Marriage in Radicena on 30 May 1908:
Carmelo Demaria 23 old
Angela Pronesti 26 old
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Postby suanj » 09 Mar 2016, 06:20

Angela Pronesti born in Radicena on 21 Nov. 1881 #186 daughter of Francesco Pronesti 42 old farmhand, and of Maria Falleti, seamstress


http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Searching the siblings of Carmelo in Molochio and of Angela in Radicena, you can know by marriage note on the Birth acts, the name of spouse, and how much infos you will have, more easy will be to find the living relatives of right family branch.. hoping helpful.
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Postby js1228 » 09 Mar 2016, 21:43

Hello -
Wow...thank you so much! I was able to locate a general document that showed the english translation, however it is difficult to understand. I understand the basic wording...and dates, however where did you find in Angela's birth record her parents occupations? I'd like to be able to find the occupations of other family members with similar documents. I'm also curious if Carmelo's birth record told of his parents occupations?

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Postby suanj » 10 Mar 2016, 07:27

yes I already wrote the parent's occupation abt:
Angela Pronesti born in Radicena on 21 Nov. 1881 #186 daughter of Francesco Pronesti 42 old farmhand, and of Maria Falleti, seamstress


abt Carmelo below I added the parent's occupation

Carmelo Demaria was born in Molochio on 30 May 1884 #44, son of Francesco Demaria 42 old and Caterina Mustica, 35 old

Francesco Demaria 42 old cowherd and Caterina Mustica, 35 old farmer.
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Postby Tessa78 » 10 Mar 2016, 16:03

where did you find in Angela's birth record her parents occupations?


In the documents suanj :-) posted and translated... look for these words after the person's age:

agricoltore - farmer
tessitrice - seamstress
bracciale - laborer
bovaro - cowherd
contadina - farmer

Here are some resources to help you translate documents and identify occupations :-)
Document extraction:
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/italian ... extraction

Occupations list: (not all-inclusive)
http://www.oocities.org/irishkenj/italjobs.html

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Postby js1228 » 11 Mar 2016, 02:50

Awesome!!! Thank you both SO much! This is SO interesting!

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Postby Tessa78 » 11 Mar 2016, 16:48

js1228 wrote:Awesome!!! Thank you both SO much! This is SO interesting!


Happy to help! :-D

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Postby suanj » 11 Mar 2016, 17:01

js1228 wrote:Awesome!!! Thank you both SO much! This is SO interesting!

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Postby js1228 » 12 Mar 2016, 02:07

i was thinking more about the occupations that you helped identify. i think i was a little surprised that the women had occupations other than housewife. was it common for women to have other occupations outside of the home? or were these not really jobs they did outside of the home? maybe just farming their own land? or sewing their own clothes?

i suppose for the men too, were these jobs working for other people...or things they did for themselves? i know it's hard to say for sure...but generally speaking, what was the culture at that time?

can is assume that farming and animals were common occupations for these cities in calabria?

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Postby suanj » 12 Mar 2016, 06:46

if the woman had a profession before to marry, she continued to work also after the marriage, to help the family...
that for any profession, any work that the woman did....

and the women worked at home or outside of the home; at home, normally the work was women's crafts (embroidery, sewing, bakery, laundry, ironing, spinning) or other works.. outside of home the women was farmers, mainly...
if the woman don't had a profession before to marry, but she was just a housewife, she remained a housewife....
but if the husband's earned income was enough for the family and/or the husband don't wanted that the wife work outside of the home, she remained at home, doing housework and taking care of children and family....
the occupations of men and women was abt the same in all Italy, because in each town or village was coppersmiths, goldsmiths, fishermen, farmers, shoemakers, shepherds, tailors, carders, drovers, masons, shopkeepers, bakers etc etc as a well the women embroiderers, washerwomen, seamstress, spinners and farmers etc etc..
because in each town and village the people need of all ... the towns and the villages are and was on the coast, it is obvious that the trades were also about fisheries, but if the towns or villages are and was in the plains or hillside, the people obviously mainly they work in agriculture and livestock, if they were small mountain villages the population working more closely with the livestock and products derived from the meat and milk processing...

where there were some industry, factory, the men working also and sometimes also the women, but at North Italy..
but about a country like Italy that has had a massive migration, it is logical to think that either there is little job and also few resources or money, and if it was job, it was badly paid and families could not survive..

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