Francis Sanguinetti

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 19 Apr 2016, 05:48

I am looking for any information on a certain Francis (Francesco?) Sanguinetti. I am assuming the spelling is correct as I note, there are various spellings of the name. He was born abt 1844 in Genoa.
He was rumoured to have been a Cook on a ship, and on arrival in Sydney, Australia, jumped ship, and went gold prospecting.
Any information most grateful.

Paul

suanj · Post by **suanj** » 20 Apr 2016, 16:17

Hi Paul,
yes the correct spelling is Sanguinetti...
on a marriage record I found that his name was John Francis Sanguinetti, so I assume Giovanni Francesco Sanguinetti:

John Francis Sanginnetti

mentioned in the record of John Francis Sanginnetti and Emily Purthynia Williams

Name John Francis Sanginnetti
Spouse's Name Emily Purthynia Williams
Event Date 27 Jan 1883
Event Place , Tasmania, Australia

I am correct? It is your ancestor?
Best regards,
suanj

paul1949 · Post by **paul1949** » 01 Jul 2016, 06:38

Hi Suan_j,
I too have a Francis Sanguinetti in my family tree.
What I do know is that he supposedly was a cook, and on a voyage to Australia, he jumped ship and stayed in Sydney, New South Wales. He married 24 December 1868.
From his Death certificate, I do know he was born in Genoa about 1844.

Is it possible to locate his Birth Certificate, and at what costs?

Kind Regards,

Paul

paul1949 · Post by **paul1949** » 01 Jul 2016, 06:41

Suan_j,
I am sorry I did not see your reply until now.
No, he is not my ancestor.

Please see my other post.

Regards,

Paul

Tessa78 · Post by **Tessa78** » 01 Jul 2016, 15:05

Possibly this is him?

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Name: G Sanguinetti
Record Type: Crew
Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1842
Birth Place: Genoa, Italy
Vessel Name: St Andrew
Vessel Type: Barque
Voyage Departure Date: 4 Oct 1882
Voyage Departure Port: Antwerp, Belgium
Voyage Arrival Date: 6 Oct 1883
Voyage Arrival Port: Hull, England
Vessel Registration Number: J872007
Vessel Registration Place: St. John, New Brunswick
Year Vessel Constructed: 1871
Date Joined Present Ship: 6 Oct 1882
Place Joined Present Ship: Antwerp, Belgium
Crew Number: 3
Literacy: Signed name
Completed What Signed On To Do?: No
Company From Last Ship: 0
Capacity (Rank): Cook/Steward
Payment Type (Time): By the month
Wage: 600
Wage Currency: Sterling
Cash Advance: 400
Cash Advance Currency: Sterling

POSSIBLE... birth and baptism of Francesco Sanguineti in Rapallo, Genoa in 1844
Father: Agostino Sanguinetti, farmer
Mother: Rosa Norero, lace worker
Birth on 1 March 1844.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

T.

paul1949 · Post by **paul1949** » 05 Jul 2016, 03:22

Hi Tessa,
Thanks 1st one details do not fit.
Most likely the 2nd one. Francis died 1906, aged 62.

Any further information available?

paul

paul1949 · Post by **paul1949** » 12 Nov 2016, 06:28

I have a ship "Aquila" arriving Sydney NSW Australia, 1860 with a crew member named -
Gio Batta Sanguinetti.
Can someone tell me what the translation of Gio Batta is, please?
Paul

suanj · Post by **suanj** » 12 Nov 2016, 06:36

Gio Batta first name coming from Giovanni Battista (full name in italian)= John Baptiste (english)
suanj

paul1949 · Post by **paul1949** » 12 Nov 2016, 20:12

Suanj,
Thank you for the translation.
This person Gio Batta Sanguinetti is the only person who fits the role of the person I am interested in.
I am wondering if his full name is Gio Batta Francesco Sanguinetti, and he dropped the Gio Batta name. From his Death Certificate, his age, occupation and length of time in Australia all fits together.

Paul

suanj · Post by **suanj** » 12 Nov 2016, 20:26

Hi,
no wife name on the death certificate? Death place is the same of your ancestor?
Let me know, thanks,
suanj

suanj · Post by **suanj** » 12 Nov 2016, 21:34

I found a Gio Batta Sanguinetti arrived in Australia

Mariners and ships in Australian Waters

AQUILA

OF GENUA, A. F. QUEIROLO, MASTER, BURTHEN 403 TONS
FROM THE PORT OF HONG KONG TO SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES, 20TH JULY 1860

Surname Given name Station Age Of what Nation Status Comments
QUIEROLO A. F. CAPTAIN CREW
GARYOGLIO GIOVANNI CHIEF MATE 24 ITALY CREW
SANGUINETTI GIO. BATTA. BOATSWAIN 41 ITALY CREW
POGGI GIO. BATTA. COOK 27 ITALY CREW
MILLANIOWIK JOSE A. B. 26 ITALY CREW
CASIGAENA ANTONIO A. B. 23 ITALY CREW
JACKON JOSEPH A. B. 25 ITALY CREW
FEDERONE VICENTE A. B. 30 ITALY CREW
ROUSMAN JOSEPH A. B. 23 ITALY CREW
STIBLY PETER A. B. 20 ITALY CREW
MERINO FRANK A. B. 40 ITALY CREW
MANVESCI ANTONIO A. B. 31 ITALY CREW
SOCKOSE O. S. 28 JAVANESE CREW
TESANGO FEDERICO O. S. 19 ITALY CREW
TASACCA ENRICO BOY 14 ITALY CREW
200 CHINAMEN PASSENGERS
http://marinersandships.com.au/1860/07/media/035aqu.gif
I believe that the age could be wrong;
you have the arrival of your ancestor?
suanj

suanj · Post by **suanj** » 13 Nov 2016, 06:59

It is the same that you found, but is the only record.. the age seeming wrong....
suanj

suanj · Post by **suanj** » 13 Nov 2016, 08:19

I found his obituary but no helpful infos abt his birthplace:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/artic ... rchLimits=
ditto:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/artic ... rchLimits=
He had many profession before of his work in Royal Hotel..
and this article- I believe referred to your ancestor- he was a baker and grocer:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/artic ... rchLimits=
for bad luck no one article abt his birthplace
suanj

paul1949 · Post by **paul1949** » 13 Nov 2016, 20:54

Suanj,
I meant to attach this file for you.

Paul

suanj · Post by **suanj** » 13 Nov 2016, 21:48

Thanks Paul, from what i read he was in Australia from 52 years, so arrived around 1854... but he was a boy around 1854... most probably he was a boy engaged on the ship.... travelling from Queensland to NSW and viceversa; and he was 25 old when married the first time so born between 1843 and 1844...
Genoa is the capital of Liguria region having the main port of area, so it was easy to say Genoa instead of right Commune of Birth, maybe just near Genoa or so... You know his parent's names? on the marriage certificates must be these data, almost on the first marriage record... it could be very helpful to know the father name and the mother first name and maiden name... another problem is the his first name... seeming used Francis more than John Francis...
Paul the name of your ancestor is popular in Liguria region, so it is necessary to collect how much info are possible to collect...
The next step is to find his marriage's records , hoping that in someone he stated his parent's names....
Best regards,
suanj