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Dialma Giovani Rizzi

Postby jennifer808 » 03 Jun 2016, 21:52

My relative 'Dialma Giovani Rizzi' was reportedly born 7/29/1890 in Roma or Napoli - I've seen both locations cited. How can I find out which 'town' he was born in? His parents were 'Carlo Francisco Rizzi' reportedly born 1857 in Napoli and 'Elsa/Elisa/Eliza Dichatillion' reportedly born 11/1864 in France (specific location not known). I am also looking for Carlo's date of birth, who his parents were, and his marriage, date and location, to Elsa They were reportedly married prior to moving to the US so logic says they married in Italy or France but .... that's logic and logic doesn't always work :). In addition to Dialma they had 2 other sons Arturo and Astro and a daughter Elise/Dea all born in Italy - dates not known. I'm looking for their dates and place of birth too. Carlo had a brother Cesare who reportedly died in Milano on 6/4/1949. And that's all the information I have on my Rizzi's in Italy. Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

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Re: Dialma Giovani Rizzi

Postby suanj » 06 Jun 2016, 21:33

hi,
I found this census:


Lea Mary Bhergon

United States Census, 1920

Name Lea Mary Bhergon
Event Type Census
Event Date 1920
Event Place North Bergen Ward 3, Hudson, New Jersey, United States
Gender Female
Age 30
Marital Status Widowed
Race White
Race (Original) White
Can Read Yes
Can Write Yes
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Own or Rent Rent
Birth Year (Estimated) 1890
Birthplace Italy
Immigration Year 1902
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace France
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 14
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Lea Mary Bhergon Head F 30 Italy
Eliza Bhergon Daughter F 8 New York
Charles Rizzi Father M 60 Italy
Dilma Rizzi Brother M 29 Italy




Lea Mary is that daughter of Carlo/Charles and the sister of Dialma....
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Re: Dialma Giovani Rizzi

Postby adelfio » 07 Jun 2016, 01:50

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, for Dialma Rizzi says born in Napoli
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Re: Dialma Giovani Rizzi

Postby suanj » 07 Jun 2016, 06:44

Lea Mary is that daughter of Carlo/Charles and the sister of Dialma....

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Lea Mary is the daughter of Carlo/Charles and the sister of Dialma....
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Re: Dialma Giovani Rizzi

Postby suanj » 07 Jun 2016, 07:07

here a trip of Dea Rizzi : the her birthplace is Terni
First Name : Dea
Last Name : Rizzi
Nationality : Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence : Napoli, Italy
Date of Arrival : November 1st, 1922
Age at Arrival : 33y
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Widowed
Ship of Travel : Patria
Port of Departure : Naples
Manifest Line Number : 0017

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Re: Dialma Giovani Rizzi

Postby jennifer808 » 08 Jun 2016, 09:41

Thank you Suanj. According to my Aunt, Dea was known to her as a 'Fraterigo'. Maybe she was widowed and my Aunt was too young to know about a previous marriage. I'm thinking based upon your 2nd post all of the Rizzi kids were born in Napoli.

Thank you Marty. That is my Dialma :). His daughters and my father were the ones who told me he was from Roma. The naturalization document is what made me think maybe he wasn't from Roma .... I believe I do have photos of my father and grandmother visiting family in Roma - that may too be why they thought Dialma was from there. ... I should go dig up those photos and see if there are other Italian family last names on the photos that may help clarify things.

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Re: Dialma Giovani Rizzi

Postby jennifer808 » 08 Jun 2016, 09:41

Thank you Suanj. According to my Aunt, Dea was known to her as a 'Fraterigo'. Maybe she was widowed and my Aunt was too young to know about a previous marriage. I'm thinking based upon your 2nd post all of the Rizzi kids were born in Napoli.

Thank you Marty. That is my Dialma :). His daughters and my father were the ones who told me he was from Roma. The naturalization document is what made me think maybe he wasn't from Roma .... I believe I do have photos of my father and grandmother visiting family in Roma - that may too be why they thought Dialma was from there. ... I should go dig up those photos and see if there are other Italian family last names on the photos that may help clarify things.

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Re: Dialma Giovani Rizzi

Postby jennifer808 » 08 Jun 2016, 10:58

Suanj - I didn't realize that Terni is a couple of hours from Napoli and closer to Roma. It looks like my family did not like to stay put and have all their kids in one location :)


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