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Caivano in Argentina

Postby caivan88 » 23 Jun 2016, 11:12

Hello, my name is Federico Caivano. I live in Argentia and i am looking for information about my ancestors.
My great great grandfather was born in Italy and traveled to Argentina between 1860 and 1890. It was called Francisco Caivano, (or francesco, or francescus). He married with Maria Antonia Rosillo.
In Argentina was born his son named Miguel Caivano. The father of my grandfather.
where I can find more information about Francisco ?. Thank you very much for your time

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Re: Caivano in Argentina

Postby suanj » 23 Jun 2016, 16:33

Hi,
I found a arrival on 1868:
TITULO:
APELLIDO: Caivano
NOMBRE: Fran.co
ACOMPAñADO POR:
EDAD:
NACIONALIDAD:
PROCEDENCIA: Montevideo
LLEGADA: Buenos Aires
BARCO: �Edward Everrett�
PROFESIóN:
OBSERVACIONES:
AñO: 1868
DIA-MES: 1.-jul
http://pasajeros.guiagenealogica.com/in ... EzNTU3Mzk=
the image is no available...
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Re: Caivano in Argentina

Postby suanj » 23 Jun 2016, 18:05

caivan88 wrote:Hello, my name is Federico Caivano. I live in Argentia and i am looking for information about my ancestors.
My great great grandfather was born in Italy and traveled to Argentina between 1860 and 1890. It was called Francisco Caivano, (or francesco, or francescus). He married with Maria Antonia Rosillo.
In Argentina was born his son named Miguel Caivano. The father of my grandfather.
where I can find more information about Francisco ?. Thank you very much for your time

I found a Birth record of a daughter,
hoping to know more abt Francesco, but no his age and no his birthplace:




Dominga Rosa Caivano

Argentina, Buenos Aires, Catholic Church Records

Name Dominga Rosa Caivano
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 21 Jul 1899
Event Place San Carlos, Bolívar, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Gender Female
Father's Name Francisco Caivano
Mother's Name María Antonia Romillo

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1972912
You know the Birth year of Francesco?

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Re: Caivano in Argentina

Postby kencwalker » 03 Aug 2016, 03:29

suanj wrote:Hi,
I found a arrival on 1868:
TITULO:
APELLIDO: Caivano
NOMBRE: Fran.co
ACOMPAñADO POR:
EDAD:
NACIONALIDAD:
PROCEDENCIA: Montevideo
LLEGADA: Buenos Aires
BARCO: �Edward Everrett�
PROFESIóN:
OBSERVACIONES:
AñO: 1868
DIA-MES: 1.-jul
http://pasajeros.guiagenealogica.com/in ... EzNTU3Mzk=
the image is no available...

suanj,
I am looking for 1 or 2 Italian family members that immigrated to Argentina in the 1880s.
How did you search the passenger lists?
(The above link didn't work for me).
Grazie
-Ken
Researching surnames Pedroncelli and Pilatti in Sondrio; Cantoia in Novara; Penna in Asti.

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Re: Caivano in Argentina

Postby suanj » 03 Aug 2016, 10:10

Hi Ken the web page of "pasajeros" for Argentina, before of 1882, it was removed, but I believe that this link is abt new webpage: http://pasajeros.entradadepasajeros.com.ar/
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Re: Caivano in Argentina

Postby kencwalker » 03 Aug 2016, 16:13

suanj,
Thanks...the link worked, and I was able to navigate with Google Translate.
I didn't find my mother's great uncle Santiago (Giacomo) Pilati.
However, a Batista Pilati arrived 17-Dec-1864 (from Havre, France).
He could be an older brother to Giacomo. I'll note and investigate later. This Argentina connection is fascinating. Who knows? Maybe someone in Argentina is trying to to connect her family to my GGM Marianna Pilati?!? :)
Mille grazie,
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Re: Caivano in Argentina

Postby suanj » 03 Aug 2016, 18:09

I believe that you can try with some different spelling also... however Santiago Pilati father was Batista Pilati:


Santiago Pilati

mentioned in the record of Santiago Pilati and Ursula Del Re

Name Santiago Pilati
Birth Date 1860
Birthplace Macesimo, Sondrio, Italy
Age 26
Spouse's Name Ursula Del Re
Spouse's Birth Date 1859
Spouse's Birthplace Santa Cruz, Sondrio, Italy
Spouse's Age 27
Event Date 17 Apr 1886
Event Place Nuestra Señora De La Asunción, Avellaneda, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Father's Name Bautista
Mother's Name Magdalena Corti
Spouse's Father's Name Bautista
Spouse's Mother's Name Teresa Jacomella

but Batista Pilati appearing on Argentina 1869 census:
J Bautista Pilati

Argentina, National Census, 1869

Name J Bautista Pilati
Event Type Census
Event Date 1869
Event Place Distrito Federal, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Gender Male
Age 23
Marital Status Married ( no I read S= Solteiro, single)
Nationality Italia
Birth Year (Estimated) 1846
Note Urbana
Section Number Sección 01ª

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1462401

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Re: Caivano in Argentina

Postby kencwalker » 03 Aug 2016, 22:24

Apologies to caivan88 for hijacking the Caivano thread.

suanj, yes, this Batista is interesting.
True, Santiago (Giacomo's) father was named Battista. I think he also had a brother named Battista (although don't have any proof yet).
However, if he was born in 1846, he's not old enough to also be my GGM's father (she was born in 1854). And yet he's a little old to be a sibling. The last child was born in 1869. That would mean children born over a 23 year span (1846 to 1869), extreme even for Italy in the 1860s.

Unfortunately online records for Madesimo begin in 1866, so I haven't found any of their siblings (I'm told there are 7). I estimated my GGM's birth year from her age on the marriage record. Guess I need to go back and check more Pilatti marriages (and deaths) to identify other siblings.

Thanks,
-Ken
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