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Michele Vinciguerra birth town/birth act

Postby Biff83 » 06 Aug 2016, 02:44

I'm asking for help once again for another person from the Senior home near me who is trying to trace his Italian heritage.

I'm trying to determine his maternal grandfather Michele Vinciguerra's birth town which I believe might be in Campania, in the province of Benevento. Birth year around 1870-1873 based on the majority of his NY census records.

On 15 Sep 1900 in Brooklyn NY, he married Marianna Mauriello, born 1870 in Melizzano, Benevento. Parents Domenico and Antonia Vigliotti. She had a brother Vinenzo and a sister Carmela; Carmela was born in 1896 in Dugenta, Benevento. Before 1905 the Mauriello and Vinciguerra families moved to the Schenectady NY area. This is the 1915 NY state census in Schenectady for the family.
Michele Vinciguerra 45
Marianna Vinciguerra 45
Rosie Vinciguerra 16?
Antonetta Vinciguerra 12
Carmela Vinciguerra 10
Concetta Vinciguerra 7
Nick Vinciguerra 4

Antoinetta would marry Raffaele Ruggiero in Schenectady; Raffaele was born in Moiano, Benevenuto.

I have the Mauriello/Vigliotti/Ruggiero ship manifests as well as most of the New York state census records and have found on the Antenati site Marianna's birth act in Melizzano; her sister Carmela's in Dugenta, Benevenuto; and Raffaele Ruggiero's in Moiano. The missing piece of the puzzle is Michele Vinciguerra. There are a number of manifests for a Michele Vinciguerra born about 187. 3There is one from Maddaloni but that Michele went to Syracuse and there is another born about the same year who went to West Virginia, one from 1898 of a Michedle from Lanciano, Chieti, Abruzzo and there is one from 1895 that does not have a last residence. I found other Vinciguerra's going to the Schenectady area from Limatola, Benvenuto but have not been able to find a birth record on the Antenati site for Michele.

Help and input appreciated. Please let me know if you'd like me to post images of any of the records I mentioned above.

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Re: Michele Vinciguerra birth town/birth act

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Aug 2016, 03:32

Hi Biff :-)

Hmmmm... found Marianna's obituary in 1969 (she was a widow of age 98!), but I have not been able to find an obituary for Michele/Michael.

http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/vi ... dda#page=1

Did you locate an arrival for Michele?
Probably won't show much information since he arrived before his marriage in 1900 :-(

Here is a good POSSIBILITY - Arriving in 1898 at age 25 (birth about 1873)
On the manifest it lists is last place of residence as Lasciano.
Name: Michele Vinciguerra
Arrival Date: 13 Apr 1898
Birth Date: abt 1873
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Victoria

http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... PUBJs=true

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Postby Biff83 » 06 Aug 2016, 04:00

Thanks, T. :)

I did locate manifests for a couple of Michele Vinciguerra's born about 1873 arriving 1900 or earlier.
There is one from a Michele from Maddaloni but that Michele settled in Syracuse.
There's another from a Michele from Lanciano, Chieti but he was a bird of passage with a wife in Lanciano.
Another from a Michele from Foggia who settled in West Virginia.
My best possibility is this 1895 manifest which unfortunately does not have a last residence.

http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... PUBJs=true


I'm pretty sure this is Michele in the 1905 NY state census working in upstate NY. Note the Vigliotti and Mauriello sound alike names.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... &ml_rpos=1
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Postby Biff83 » 06 Aug 2016, 21:10

My apologies. There is a previous thread on this topic but it did not definitively locate Michele Vinciguerra's birth town.

http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/i ... logy/36619

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Postby Biff83 » 07 Aug 2016, 00:48

Based on suanj's best guess from the previous thread, I was able to locate the 10 year index (1866-1875) for Limatola on the Antenati site, but there is only one Vinciguerra, a Carmela, listed. So, it appears Michele was not born in Limatola.

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 3.jpg.html

The mystery still remains unsolved.

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Re: Michele Vinciguerra birth town/birth act

Postby suanj » 07 Aug 2016, 17:13

Dear Biff I checked in Benevento archive, abt the military record (Classi 1874-1931 con 26 arruolati nati tra il 1867 e il 1873=men born from 1873 and 1931 + 26 men born between 1867 and 1873)
http://archiviodistatobenevento.benicul ... onomastico
and I no found your Michele Vinciguerra

ditto for the Levy list (Classi 1870-1873=men born from 1870 to 1873)
http://archiviodistatobenevento.benicul ... 870_73.pdf

so I believe that Benevento area is out ... your Michele Vinciguerra seeming no born in Benevento area...
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Postby suanj » 07 Aug 2016, 17:55

Tessa78 wrote:Hi Biff :-)

Hmmmm... found Marianna's obituary in 1969 (she was a widow of age 98!), but I have not been able to find an obituary for Michele/Michael.

http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/vi ... dda#page=1

Did you locate an arrival for Michele?
Probably won't show much information since he arrived before his marriage in 1900 :-(

Here is a good POSSIBILITY - Arriving in 1898 at age 25 (birth about 1873)
On the manifest it lists is last place of residence as Lasciano.
Name: Michele Vinciguerra
Arrival Date: 13 Apr 1898
Birth Date: abt 1873
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Victoria

http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... PUBJs=true

T.

Hi Tessa I believe your find is the same of this record:
First Name : Michele
Last Name : Vincezuena
Nationality : Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence : Lanceano
Date of Arrival : April 14th, 1898
Age at Arrival : 25y
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Single
Ship of Travel : Burgundia
Port of Departure : Naples
Manifest Line Number : 0018
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB ... =passenger

he don't sailed on this ship, but the ship's manifest is interesting because he going from his relative: Leonardo ( I cannot read very well if Leonardo was brother, cousin or what), but maybe this name, Leonardo can be helpful for Biff, to understand if it is the right arrival or not...
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Postby Tessa78 » 07 Aug 2016, 18:09

Hi suanj :-D !
I cannot open your link :-(

The arrival I found seems to be the same date, but the ship name on the manifest is "Victoria"
It also does not list a person for destination, only the address "41 Thompson St., NYC"
The passenger below him, Nicola Giancristofaro, is also going to that address, to a "cousin"
Both passengers are from Lanciano.

Lines 7 and 8
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Postby Biff83 » 07 Aug 2016, 18:20

Subsequent 1901 manifest which I believe is the Michele from the above posts. States joining nobody. Line 6. I don't believe that's the Michele we're looking for.

http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... PUBJs=true

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Postby suanj » 07 Aug 2016, 18:25

yes Tessa, the link don't work because the search was made by my account, maybe this link work better: http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
ditto:
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/s ... cGciOw==/1
seeming to be the same person that sailed on the Victoria...
Biff you have the marriage record? you know the Michele parent's names?
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Postby Biff83 » 07 Aug 2016, 18:36

We do not have a copy of the marriage record from Brooklyn. Marianna Mauriello and Michele Vinaguerra (incorrect spelling). I'm not sure if the record will have parents' names and birth town but it looks like that might be our last hope.

http://stevemorse.org/vital/nymarriages ... iangen.org

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Postby Tessa78 » 07 Aug 2016, 18:42

suanj wrote:yes Tessa, the link don't work because the search was made by my account, maybe this link work better: http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
ditto:
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/s ... cGciOw==/1
seeming to be the same person that sailed on the Victoria...
Biff you have the marriage record? you know the Michele parent's names?
suanj


Yes, suanj :-)
It appears to be the same persons who sailed on the Victoria -
The word before Leonardo is "father" and is crossed out. No other information there :-(

Here is certificate # for the marriage...
Vinaguerra Michele Sep 16 1900 #5478 King
Mauriello Marianna Sep 15 1900 #5478 Kings
http://italiangen.org/records-search/brides.php

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