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Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby pescara » 05 Sep 2016, 20:11

Hello!

For the past 5 years I've been looking for information about my great grandfather but with no luck. I don't know how but only now I was able to find this forum (and it's great btw!).

Anyway...I have very little information about when and where he was born.

The only thing I know for sure is that he, ATTILIO PESCARA, was born in Treviso in 1884. I don't know his parents name.

Do you guys think it'd be better to contact a researcher? With so little information, would he be able to find his birth records?

Thanks in advance for your help

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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby Italysearcher » 07 Sep 2016, 15:32

The birth records for Treviso for 1884 are on line here:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947831
There does not appear to be an index so you will have to go page by page unless you know the full birth date.
Other records can be found on microfilm (not all on line) at www.familysearch.org
There are tips for searching the films and translations on my website.
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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby VotM » 07 Sep 2016, 16:19

There is an index for 1871-1881. If the search through 1884 comes up empty, one thing that might point to a different town of origin is the lack of Pescara's in that decennial index.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947831
There is also an index labelled 1873-1908, but it only contains 1908, 1876, 1879 and 1873.
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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby suanj » 07 Sep 2016, 18:25

pescara wrote:Hello!

For the past 5 years I've been looking for information about my great grandfather but with no luck. I don't know how but only now I was able to find this forum (and it's great btw!).

Anyway...I have very little information about when and where he was born.

The only thing I know for sure is that he, ATTILIO PESCARA, was born in Treviso in 1884. I don't know his parents name.

Do you guys think it'd be better to contact a researcher? With so little information, would he be able to find his birth records?

Thanks in advance for your help

Hi,
you know the maiden name of Attilio mother?
Pescara is a surname no very popular in the Veneto region, and I believe no one Pescara in all Treviso province... also currently.. if you have further infos let us know... so we can help better..
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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby suanj » 07 Sep 2016, 18:28

I found the Attilio's wife Birth act in Finale (Modena province): Zaira Fortunata Maria DEGOLI
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... d=69701159 as a well her arrival, but no one record abt Attilio PESCARA no arrival record nothing... You have his arrival record?
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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby VotM » 07 Sep 2016, 19:33

One other thought: assuming that the Attilio Pescara is the same person as the Atilio Pescara for whom a user has entered a family tree on FamilySearch, could "Pescara" be a modified spelling of an Italian surname that was adapted to Brazil?
LDS Gioiosa Marea "road map" post at
http://italiangenealogy.com/forum/itali ... logy/33808

LDS Cefalù, Termini Imerese and Villaurea "road map" post at
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/i ... 50#p239255

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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby suanj » 08 Sep 2016, 07:35

Hi, I found that the many Pescara immigrated in Brazil coming from Rovigo province... Adria area.. if you have further details is better... however maybe he was called Attilio but his real first name was another, and for that we cannot find his arrival..

Just for exemple below the arrival of Domenico Pescara and Ester Previati and children:
coming from Bottrighe ( Rovigo province):
Registros relacionados
Livro Página Família Chegada Sobrenome Nome Idade Sexo Parentesco Nacionalidade Vapor Est.Civil Religião

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 TEMISTOCLE 09 FILHO AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 ESTER 36 ESPOSA AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 PESCARA DOMENICO 37 MARIDO AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 MARIA 12 FILHA AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 ADELE 07 FILHA AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 DANTE 04 FILHO AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 DOROTEA 02 FILHA AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

and again just for exemple:
the child Dante, here his record in Italy:
PESCARA Dante 550,00 29/08/1886 BOTTRIGHE RO 1886 ADRIA ADRIA Domenico Pescara Previati Ester

This couple had also another child: Sante Pescara https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2140223
and here the Birth act:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1482864

likewise I found some other Pescara birthplace, who also immigrated in Brazil... but really no records abt Attilio.. on IG forum we will be very happy to help you, if you can add some other detail... Just to say you that the search can be made...

by Attilio marriage record you can find his parent's names, and this info could be very helpful...
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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby VotM » 08 Sep 2016, 14:57

For those who might have insights into possible alternative spellings/variants for "Pescara", an immigration search page for Brazil (in Portuguese) may be found at
http://www.inci.org.br/acervodigital/livros.php
LDS Gioiosa Marea "road map" post at
http://italiangenealogy.com/forum/itali ... logy/33808

LDS Cefalù, Termini Imerese and Villaurea "road map" post at
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/i ... 50#p239255

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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby pescara » 08 Sep 2016, 18:31

Italysearcher wrote:The birth records for Treviso for 1884 are on line here:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947831
There does not appear to be an index so you will have to go page by page unless you know the full birth date.
Other records can be found on microfilm (not all on line) at http://www.familysearch.org
There are tips for searching the films and translations on my website.


Thanks for helping. There are many comunes in Treviso . I don't know which one might be. I'll look for more information about that.

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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby pescara » 08 Sep 2016, 18:37

VotM wrote:There is an index for 1871-1881. If the search through 1884 comes up empty, one thing that might point to a different town of origin is the lack of Pescara's in that decennial index.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1947831
There is also an index labelled 1873-1908, but it only contains 1908, 1876, 1879 and 1873.


Thanks for the info. I need to find more details to help us in the search.

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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby pescara » 08 Sep 2016, 19:22

suanj wrote:
pescara wrote:Hello!

For the past 5 years I've been looking for information about my great grandfather but with no luck. I don't know how but only now I was able to find this forum (and it's great btw!).

Anyway...I have very little information about when and where he was born.

The only thing I know for sure is that he, ATTILIO PESCARA, was born in Treviso in 1884. I don't know his parents name.

Do you guys think it'd be better to contact a researcher? With so little information, would he be able to find his birth records?

Thanks in advance for your help

Hi,
you know the maiden name of Attilio mother?
Pescara is a surname no very popular in the Veneto region, and I believe no one Pescara in all Treviso province... also currently.. if you have further infos let us know... so we can help better..
best regards,
suanj



I checked with relatives and got the following information:
1 ) in the cemetery appears that he was in Venice;
2 ) A child said it does not know for sure , but apparently would Rovigo;
3 ) your child marriage document has Atilio coming from Treviso and his wife Zaira coming from Modena

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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby pescara » 08 Sep 2016, 19:27

suanj wrote:I found the Attilio's wife Birth act in Finale (Modena province): Zaira Fortunata Maria DEGOLI
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... d=69701159 as a well her arrival, but no one record abt Attilio PESCARA no arrival record nothing... You have his arrival record?
Thanks,
suanj


Suanj,

Thank you very much for the information. I got here in this forum the data of my great-grandmother , Attilio 's wife. We did not find any information of his arrival in Brazil. We know that a child when he came here.

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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby pescara » 08 Sep 2016, 20:35

VotM wrote:One other thought: assuming that the Attilio Pescara is the same person as the Atilio Pescara for whom a user has entered a family tree on FamilySearch, could "Pescara" be a modified spelling of an Italian surname that was adapted to Brazil?


Thanks for helping. It may be, but now there are people in Italy with this surname.
There are other variations of the last name in Brazil: Pescare, Pescar, Pescari ...

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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby pescara » 08 Sep 2016, 22:02

suanj wrote:Hi, I found that the many Pescara immigrated in Brazil coming from Rovigo province... Adria area.. if you have further details is better... however maybe he was called Attilio but his real first name was another, and for that we cannot find his arrival..

Just for exemple below the arrival of Domenico Pescara and Ester Previati and children:
coming from Bottrighe ( Rovigo province):
Registros relacionados
Livro Página Família Chegada Sobrenome Nome Idade Sexo Parentesco Nacionalidade Vapor Est.Civil Religião

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 TEMISTOCLE 09 FILHO AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 ESTER 36 ESPOSA AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 PESCARA DOMENICO 37 MARIDO AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 MARIA 12 FILHA AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 ADELE 07 FILHA AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 DANTE 04 FILHO AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

026 129 02278 11/06/1891 DOROTEA 02 FILHA AUSTRIACA C. DI NAPOLI NÃO CONSTA

and again just for exemple:
the child Dante, here his record in Italy:
PESCARA Dante 550,00 29/08/1886 BOTTRIGHE RO 1886 ADRIA ADRIA Domenico Pescara Previati Ester

This couple had also another child: Sante Pescara https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2140223
and here the Birth act:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1482864

likewise I found some other Pescara birthplace, who also immigrated in Brazil... but really no records abt Attilio.. on IG forum we will be very happy to help you, if you can add some other detail... Just to say you that the search can be made...

by Attilio marriage record you can find his parent's names, and this info could be very helpful...
best regards,
suanj



Thank you for your help.
An uncle said he could have come from Rovigo . We are trying to find old documents it to verify the correct spelling of the name . Locate the arrival of my great-grandmother with the changed surname DEGOLI and not DIEGOLI , it may be that his name has been spelled wrong.
We are trying to locate the records for the wedding.

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Re: Looking for Birth Records - Attilio Pescara

Postby pescara » 08 Sep 2016, 22:04

VotM wrote:For those who might have insights into possible alternative spellings/variants for "Pescara", an immigration search page for Brazil (in Portuguese) may be found at
http://www.inci.org.br/acervodigital/livros.php



I'll check required. Thanks


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