Help making a possible link between Wolverhampton and Sant'Elia Fiumerapido/Cassino

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Help making a possible link between Wolverhampton and Sant'Elia Fiumerapido/Cassino

Postby wolves_cacchione » 18 Sep 2016, 17:11

I am trying to find more information on Domenico Cacchione and Marta Cacchione from Wolverhampton.

Both appear living in Wolverhampton in the 1901 census as well as the 1911 census. The 1911 England and Wales census also lists a Michele Cacchione (aged 20) as the son of Domenico and has his birth place as Italy so he may have joined them later on. The 1911 census has Domenico as age 47 and Marta as age 41 so they must have been born around 1864 and 1870.

A family tree I've found on Ancestry lists Marta as the sister of Benedetto Leo (also in Wolverhampton as per census data) his age on the 1911 census is also 47 so he is around the same age as Domenico. The tree on Ancestry has his info as:

Benedetto Leo
11 SEP 1863 • Sant'Elia Fiumerapido, Italy
DEATH 14 DEC 1925 • Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

The tree also lists Maria as the wife of Benedetto (the England census agrees with this) and the father of Benedetto as Mariano Di Leo. The mother of Benedetto is Vincentina and his paternal grandfather is also Mariano Di Leo.

This is the only direct link I've found to Italy besides my mother saying she thinks they came over via Naples and another forum member (only one post and no activity since 2013) here posting that they were told it was the Cassino area. The information I've found on the UK side about Domenico and Marta is:

- the census data
- death listings (Domenico in 1955 and Marta in 1954)
- listed on the birth listings of their children in Wolverhampton.
- listed as the parent on WW1 military forms for their son Carl Cacchione (misspelt Caschione) born Carmine or Carmeno in Wolverhampton 1896 - This is my Great Grandfather
- listed as a contact on the POW card of Antonio Cacchione (also born in Wolverhampton) who went missing in Craonne France during WW1.
Here is the POW card: http://i.imgur.com/BtgTu8D.jpg

but none of this listed a location in Italy. I've also tried searching for more information on Michele Cacchione to see if he had any information leading back to Italy and the only instance of this name I've found in England in the correct time period is on a war memorial in London more info here:

http://www.londonremembers.com/subjects ... -cacchione
http://www.londonremembers.com/memorial ... w1-and-ww2
http://i.imgur.com/nZfuE6c.jpg

I've also checked the death records here:
http://www.gentedimareitaliangenealogy. ... inone.html
and found the surnames Cacchione and Leo. also LaMarra which matches a person (Orazio? LaMarra) listed on the 1901 census as living in the same house as Domenico and Marta.

I'm looking for information mostly in Italy but any ties in the UK are also welcome as is advice on how to proceed with research myself.

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Re: Help making a possible link between Wolverhampton and Sant'Elia Fiumerapido/Cassino

Postby Italysearcher » 19 Sep 2016, 17:33

There is an article on my blog about finding the town of origin you might find helpful.
Sant'Elia's civil records were destroyed in WW2 and were reconstructed by the people still alive after WW2. You can find these reconstructed records at www.familysearh.org but this probably won't help you unless there was still family members there.
Parish records survived for the most part but these usually have to be searched in person. The priest may send you a record if you have a date. Do keep your request simple and direct. They are not really interested in your family history.
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Re: Help making a possible link between Wolverhampton and Sant'Elia Fiumerapido/Cassino

Postby wolves_cacchione » 19 Sep 2016, 18:11

Italysearcher wrote:There is an article on my blog about finding the town of origin you might find helpful.
Sant'Elia's civil records were destroyed in WW2 and were reconstructed by the people still alive after WW2. You can find these reconstructed records at http://www.familysearh.org but this probably won't help you unless there was still family members there.
Parish records survived for the most part but these usually have to be searched in person. The priest may send you a record if you have a date. Do keep your request simple and direct. They are not really interested in your family history.


From the dates I've seen on the birth listings of their children they must have moved over to England around 1891-1896 so reconstructed records after WW2 might not be likely. I will start looking for more information on the location of Domenico using the images on familysearch of birth records near the Cassino area.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Help making a possible link between Wolverhampton and Sant'Elia Fiumerapido/Cassino

Postby Italysearcher » 20 Sep 2016, 10:12

If Domenico was born before 1865 you should find him in the Sant'Elia records which are complete from 1809-1865. I think Tessa (on this board) has done a lot of work in Saant'Elia microfilms.
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Re: Help making a possible link between Wolverhampton and Sant'Elia Fiumerapido/Cassino

Postby wolves_cacchione » 20 Sep 2016, 21:03

Italysearcher wrote:If Domenico was born before 1865 you should find him in the Sant'Elia records which are complete from 1809-1865. I think Tessa (on this board) has done a lot of work in Saant'Elia microfilms.


I'm unsure if I would find Domenico in Sant'Elia but as I'm lacking specific information on where he was from (just near Cassino) but it'd be worth a shot.

Benedetto Leo should be in those records though which would be a good starting point for working back if I can confirm the link between Marta and Benedetto (my only source on them being siblings is an Ancestry family tree at the moment). It's a shame i can't easily check for the birth of Marta in 1970 and her marriage to Domenico in around 1890.

Again thank you for all your help.

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Postby Italysearcher » 21 Sep 2016, 20:20

Even if you could, if they left Italy before Ww2 you wouldn't find a marriage record.
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Re: Help making a possible link between Wolverhampton and Sant'Elia Fiumerapido/Cassino

Postby wolves_cacchione » 24 Sep 2016, 00:38

I've found a family tree featuring a Domenicantonio Cacchione in the correct place and about the same year.

http://gw.geneanet.org/plosbernard?lang ... =cacchione

The middle name of Domenico on his death listing in the UK starts with an 'a' and a few Ancestry trees list his middle name as Antonio.
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Re: Help making a possible link between Wolverhampton and Sant'Elia Fiumerapido/Cassino

Postby wolves_cacchione » 26 Sep 2016, 04:14

The 1939 register lists the birth date of Domenico as 2-mar, 62. So it is not a match to the Domenic in the tree I was investigating previously.
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