Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

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Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby rp76226 » 16 Oct 2016, 18:56

Per the following link, the parents of Michele Lorusso are the deceased Francesco Lorusso and deceased Angela Colonna. What confuses me is that both parents are listed as being domiciled somewhere - a word that I do not recognize, even though they are dead. Is that a comune? If yes, what is it? I've tried in vain to find the Francesco Lorusso marriage record and death record in Altamura, searching back to 1809 for the marriage record and 1822 for the death record. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place.

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby liviomoreno » 16 Oct 2016, 19:02

It says "domiciliato in vita ivi" = "domiciled, when alive, there (in Altamura)"

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby rp76226 » 17 Oct 2016, 00:16

Thanks, I'll have to remember that term. Guess i looked in the right place. Some years and indices were missing. Probably the marriage and deaths fell there. Without an index, I don't go looking - way too time consuming.

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby Tessa78 » 17 Oct 2016, 02:20

Here is the marriage of Francesco Lorusso and Angela Colonna in 1817 in Altamura. #64 - dated 27 August.

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby rp76226 » 17 Oct 2016, 04:09

Wow, Tessa excellent work. Thank you.

I'm struggling a little bit with some of the words and hope that you can help me. Otherwise, just tell me to submit to the translation forum. Francesco was 24. I cannot make out his profession. His father was ? Michele Lorusso, age 50, and his mother was Maria Simone, age 50. His wife Angela Colonna was also 24. I think her father was deceased and died in 1796. Not sure if his first name was also Francesco or something else. Her mother was Anna Maria Lojudice (I thought the normal spelling of that surname should read Logiudice, but it doesn't seem to spell that way on the document), age 50. Not sure what the note added vertically to the document is saying. On the next page are witnesses, but below the witnesses, I think there are additional family members listed, but I am not sure. http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby Tessa78 » 17 Oct 2016, 04:47

rp76226 wrote:Wow, Tessa excellent work. Thank you.

I'm struggling a little bit with some of the words and hope that you can help me. Otherwise, just tell me to submit to the translation forum. Francesco was 24. I cannot make out his profession. His father was ? YES Michele Lorusso, age 50, and his mother was Maria Simone, age 50. His wife Angela Colonna was also 24. I think her father was deceased YES and died in 1796. Not sure if his first name was also Francesco His name was Vincenzo or something else. Her mother was Anna Maria Lojudice Correct spelling (I thought the normal spelling of that surname should read Logiudice, but it doesn't seem to spell that way on the document), age 50. Not sure what the note added vertically to the document is saying. It notes the church celebration of Marriage on the same day. On the next page are witnesses, but below the witnesses, I think there are additional family members listed, but I am not sure. That indicates the "sign" of the two spouses and four witnesses because they could not write their signatures.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0


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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby rp76226 » 17 Oct 2016, 04:51

Thank you very much again. What was the word before Michele Lorusso? I thought it might have been a first name and that Michele was a middle name.

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby Tessa78 » 17 Oct 2016, 05:06

Francesco was of age and assisted by his parents. The word you see is "Genitori" = parents. :D

I was not able to read Francesco's occupation at this time.

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby rp76226 » 17 Oct 2016, 05:08

Thank you.

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby Tessa78 » 17 Oct 2016, 05:21

Here is the birth act of Michele Lorusso.
On this record, as on the marriage, Francesco's occupation appears to read "avatore"??

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Same occupation on this birth of daughter, Anna, in 1824.

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby Tessa78 » 17 Oct 2016, 06:52

I believe Francesco's occupation is "aratore" = plowman, cultivator

And...Michele's occupation is "molinaro" = miller

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby rp76226 » 17 Oct 2016, 16:38

Thank you again Tessa. I now, thanks to your help, plan to search for the death record of the oldest Lorusso, Michele lorusso who was married to Maria Simone. That would give me another Lorusso generation. He was 50 in 1817 when his son Francesco married. So there is a good chance that his death record is available.

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby Tessa78 » 18 Oct 2016, 16:12

Here is another daughter of Francesco Lorusso and Angela Colonna, born in 1827.
TERESA LORUSSO
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Here is the death record of Michele Lorusso (father of Francesco Lorusso) in 1837.
#515
Dated 16 September 1837 in Altamura - death on same day at 9 AM at home
Michele Lorusso, age 80, widower of Maria Simone.
He was a miller (molinaro), and the son of deceased Francesco Lorusso (plowman) and deceased Paola Maino.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby rp76226 » 18 Oct 2016, 16:28

Thank you.

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Re: Parents of Michele Lorusso who died in 1887

Postby Tessa78 » 18 Oct 2016, 16:44

Just added Michele's death act above. :-)

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