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Where to start?

Postby michaelPiacentini » 22 Feb 2006, 22:31

I'm looking for info on my grandfather, Mario Piacentini who came to the US at the age of 9 in 1929. He came into Ellis Island and somehow ended up in Bridgeport CT.
Supposedly his father was an orphan and the last name was one he chose because of the area they were from.
I have no info on his mother whatsoever.
He passed away in 1990 and now my grandmother is very ill and I'm hoping to find some info somehow, someway.
Just asking where I could start looking for birth records, ships manifest(can't get anywhere through Ellis isle records but his name is inscribed on wall), and of course relatives.

Thank you,
Michael Piacentini

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Postby wldspirit » 22 Feb 2006, 22:40

Name: MARIO PIACENTINI
Father's Surname: IACENTINI
Death Date: 01 April 1979
Death Place: Berlin, Connecticut
Age: 90 Years
Birth Place: Non-Western Hemisphere
Birth Date: 20 February xxxYOB89
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse: SCHOL
State File #: 06513
Residence: Berlin, Connecticut
Gender: Unknown
Race: White


Name: MARIO PIACENTINI
Father's Surname: PIACENTINI
Death Date: 08 November 1990
Death Place: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Age: 70 Years
Birth Place: Italy
Birth Date: 08 November 1920
Marital Status: Married
Spouse: THERE
State File #: 23118
Occupation: RET CONSTR SUPER
Industry: E & F CONSTR CO
Education: Primary/Secondary
Residence: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Address: 250 ROBIN ST , 066064440
Gender: Male
Race: White

Are these related to you?
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Re: Where to start?

Postby mfjp » 22 Feb 2006, 22:44

A 1930 census record exists of a Mario Piacentini...

Name: Mario Piacentini
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1919
Relation to head-of-house: Son
Father's Name: Angelo Piacentini
Mother's Name: Concetta Piacentini
Home in 1930: Manhattan, New York, New York

Siblings are Dante, Vanda, Philip, Vero...

What is odd though... a manifest exists for M. Concetta Covelli who travels with Dante, Elena, Filippo, and Salvatore.. who's husband is Angelo Piacentini... from the town of Esperia...

BUT... I did not see Mario on the list though... the 1930 census record info of this particular family has him born in Italy...

A manifest also exists for Angelo...

If this is the correct family, I could link all this info for you...

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Re: Where to start?

Postby michaelPiacentini » 22 Feb 2006, 23:38

The second one is my grandfather. 250 Robin st is still my grandmothers home.

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Re: Where to start?

Postby michaelPiacentini » 22 Feb 2006, 23:41

wow you guys are fast. And if you could link that I would greatly appreciate it!

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Postby wldspirit » 22 Feb 2006, 23:49

Did Mario have a middle initial, any military service that you know of?
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Re: Where to start?

Postby michaelPiacentini » 22 Feb 2006, 23:52

No Military service that we know of. And no middle Initial.

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Postby mfjp » 22 Feb 2006, 23:56

First Name: Angelo
Last Name: Piacentini
Ethnicity: Italy, So. Italian
Last Place of Residence: Esperia, Italy
Date of Arrival: Apr 14, 1920
Age at Arrival: 44y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Patria
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0002

Page 1 mentions that his wife in Italy is Concetta "Piacentini" (Covelli)

Angelo also travels with a Scolastica Covelli...

Page 2, mentions a brother Filippo...

page 1

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0196%2ETIF

page 2
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 3278030161
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First Name: M. Concetta
Last Name: Covelli and children
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian So.
Last Place of Residence: Esperia, Italy
Date of Arrival: Jun 04, 1921
Age at Arrival: 29y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Guglielmo Peirce
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0018

M. Concetta's father in Italy would be Egidio Covelli

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0196%2ETIF
page 2
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0196040113
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p.s.... back shortly with the census record

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Postby wldspirit » 23 Feb 2006, 00:10

I did find the surname Piacentini in the ww1 database, town of origin looks like Esperia........and in the ww2 database I found the following.......

Name: Mario S Piacentini
Birth Year: 1918
Race: White, not yet a citizen
Nativity State or Country: Italy or San Marino
State: New York
County or City: New York

Enlistment Date: 4 Dec 1942
Enlistment State: New York
Enlistment City: New York City
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Motorcycle Mechanic or Packer, High Explosives (Munitions worker, ammunition. ) or Toolroom Keeper or Stock Clerk or Stock Control Clerk
Marital Status: Single, with dependents
Height: 67
Weight: 119

may or may not apply.......
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Re: Where to start?

Postby mfjp » 23 Feb 2006, 00:20

mfjp wrote:A 1930 census record exists of a Mario Piacentini...

Name: Mario Piacentini
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1919
Relation to head-of-house: Son
Father's Name: Angelo Piacentini
Mother's Name: Concetta Piacentini
Home in 1930: Manhattan, New York, New York

Siblings are Dante, Vanda, Philip, Vero...

If this is the correct family, I could link all this info for you...

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1930 record

Name: Angelo Piacentini
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's Name: Concetta Piacentini
Race: White
Home in 1930: Manhattan, New York, New York

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6770 ... sus1vm.jpg

Please note that there is also another Mario Piancentini on this record near bottom of page... he could be the same person that Wldspirit (hey you!!) posted earlier (born 1889)... Angelo's younger brother?... lots to look into!

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Re: Where to start?

Postby michaelPiacentini » 23 Feb 2006, 00:20

Wild spirit thanks but that's not him.
I know he was born in Italy and his ship came in 1929.
Also on the ship were my wife's 2 grandfathers, Chester Montini and Domenick Marini.
That leads me to believe that if Angelo was a connection, he would've been an uncle or cousin. Not sure on that 1.
It's amazing that me and my wife met 70 years later and her grandfather Marini and mine lived 2 streets away from each other and knew each other their entire lives. Her grandfather passed several years ago but was ill when I knew him and had little memory left.

Thank you so much all of you,
Mike Piacentini

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Postby wldspirit » 23 Feb 2006, 00:28

Not to worry.......Mfjp is great with the manifest...(hey there... :P ..)
so the search goes on.... :wink:

perhaps the additional names will help, anything you can provide in way of names, dates and places will help.........
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Re: Where to start?

Postby michaelPiacentini » 23 Feb 2006, 00:36

Ok here is what I just found from my Aunt.
My Grandfather's dad's name was Salvatore. He also came with his mother who's first name was Millie, probaly short for something which might be M. Concetta.

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Postby mfjp » 23 Feb 2006, 00:36

Where did you get the ship's info from?? Was it documented or was it "hear-say"...

How were the names transcribed.... for example "Chester"... Cesidio?

I could look these up on Ancestry.com... but your info would save me some time!

There are a few Domenico Marini's out there... any birthyears for the Marini's

And for sure... Mario, Chester and Domenico travelled on the same boat?? Same voyage??

This certainly makes research exciting for you and your wife.. could you imagine having a boat record that shows all 3.. you could end up with 2 ship records...

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further edit... there is a Salvatore on the 1930 record...

also.. the other record that Wldspirit posted is of Mario S. Piacentini... I think it still could be him... the initial could be Salvatore... and I can see why Wldspirit was asking earlier on...

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Re: Where to start?

Postby michaelPiacentini » 23 Feb 2006, 00:41

The ship's info is what my grandfather had told my Father,uncle, and Aunt. My uncle was the first born and was named Salvatore telling me that his grandfather probably was indeed Salvatore who came here in 1929 along with my grandfather.
I believe Salvatore is now where I am going to look.

And how do you find all this so fast? Unbelievable!!

Thanks again


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