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looking for family in Sicily

Postby ciacciomuschettofamily » 01 Apr 2006, 22:23

Hi, I am looking for relatives of Ibarta Ciaccio, she left Sicily by ship in the late 1890's. She married Luca Ciaccio in Sicily before leaving together with him. She went to Lousiana and had five or 6 kids: Antonia, Constantina or Consqueta, Frank, Rosa and 2 more. Luca may be the town my great grandfather was from and not his real name. Also, the 1920 census states Ibarta's name as Mary.

Another problem I have with finding Ibarta is she was raised in a convent in Sicily. I would like to know how to access convent records for that time

I am also looking for relatives of Antontio Muschetto and Maria Shiro, both from Sicily immigrated to Lousiana in the late 1890's. They had 5 or 6 children, I know two of the children's names: Joseph and John.

I will be in Sicily this summer and would like to meet my relatives there.

Thanks :D
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby suanj » 01 Apr 2006, 22:46

ciacciomuschettofamily wrote:Hi, I am looking for relatives of Ibarta Ciaccio, she left Sicily by ship in the late 1890's. She married Luca Ciaccio in Sicily before leaving together with him. She went to Lousiana and had five or 6 kids: Antonia, Constantina or Consqueta, Frank, Rosa and 2 more. Luca may be the town my great grandfather was from and not his real name. Also, the 1920 census states Ibarta's name as Mary.

Another problem I have with finding Ibarta is she was raised in a convent in Sicily. I would like to know how to access convent records for that time

I am also looking for relatives of Antontio Muschetto and Maria Shiro, both from Sicily immigrated to Lousiana in the late 1890's. They had 5 or 6 children, I know two of the children's names: Joseph and John.

I will be in Sicily this summer and would like to meet my relatives there.

Thanks :D

HI, I found this record:
Anto. Muschetto Occupation Artist, Scenic Artist
Age 30
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 12 Nov 1894
Origin Italy
Port Genoa & Gibraltar
Last Residence U
Destination USA
Plan Unknown
Ship Augusta Victoria
Passage Unknown
------for Maria probable surname spelling is Sciro... or Scira..or Schiro ... for to search better are necessary some other detail as birthyear...
about Ibarta, you can explane me better.. the name was Ibarta or Mary? and the surname Ciaccio.. as the husband, but nee...? regards, suanj
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby jcsm400 » 01 Apr 2006, 22:53

WHich one is yours?
CIACCIO ANTHONY M 35 M W ITAL LA ORLEANS 15-WD NEW ORLEANS 1900

CIACCIO ANTOINE 39 M W ITAL LA ORLEANS 6-WD NEW ORLEANS 1900

CIACCIO ANTONIO 33 M W ITAL LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1900

CIACCIO GUISEPPA 38 M W ITAL LA TERREBONNE WARD 4 1900

CIACCIO JACK 58 M W ITAL LA ORLEANS 7-WD NEW ORLEANS 1900

CIACCIO JAKE 26 M W LA LA ORLEANS 9-WD NEW ORLEANS 1900

CIACCIO NICK 62 M W ITAL LA ORLEANS 3-WD NEW ORLEANS 1900

CIACCIO PETTER 26 M W LA LA ORLEANS 4-WD NEW ORLEANS 1900

CIACCIO WILLIE 25 M W LA LA ORLEANS 8-WD NEW ORLEANS 1900
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby vj » 01 Apr 2006, 23:01

Is this John MUSCHETTO related to one of the families you're looking for
in Italy? vj

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WWI Draft Registration Card
5 Jun 1917
John MUSCHETTO
Maringouin (Iberville) LA
21 years old, b 27 May 1896
Natural born in Convent (St James) LA
Farm Laborer
Working for Tony MUSCHETTO in Maringouin
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby suanj » 01 Apr 2006, 23:06

Hi is this your Luca Ciaccio?
1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Luca Ciaccio
Birth: abt 1851 - location
Arrival: year
Residence: 1920 - city, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana
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Mary Ciaccio city, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana abt 1856
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Frank Ciaccio city, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana abt 1904
Conegatta (CONCETTA) Ciaccio city, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana abt 1906
Rosa Ciaccio city, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana abt 1907
Tony Ciaccio city, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana abt 1910
Joe Ciaccio city, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana abt 1899
Mary Ciaccio city, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana abt 1901

Let us know, suanj

PS: however if someone can see almost the immigration year on the census, it will be more easy to search the ship's manifest and the right birthplace.. thanks :wink:
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby vj » 01 Apr 2006, 23:40

Question on the MUSCHETTO family:

There is a tree posted on ancestry.com that appears to be related
- Giovanni MUSCHETTO married Maria SCHIRO
- Giovanni's son Antonio MUSCHETTO married Rose RONNO
- Antonio's son Joseph MUSCHETTO married Concetta CIACCIO

and California Death Index for a Joseph MUSCHETTO
mother's maiden name RANNO
Name: MUSCHETTO, JOSEPH
Social Security #: 571445943
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1898
Birthplace: LOUISIANA
Death Date: 5 Jun 1980
Death Place: SACRAMENTO
Mother's Maiden Name: RANNO

Can find a 1920 census for Tony MUSCHETTO w/wife Rosie immigrated in 1889. edit - census info in later post
Different family?
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby jcsm400 » 01 Apr 2006, 23:43

suanj.

Appears to be 1885.
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby nuccia » 02 Apr 2006, 00:42

Hi Everyone,

This is my experiment and I need all your help. I'm attempting to link the 1920 census that Suanj posted using imageshack. I hope it works!

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1804 ... rge6zr.gif

Unfortunately, I think that it's still too far away. The original document was blurry to begin with which makes it even more difficult.

Sorry, I tried.
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby suanj » 02 Apr 2006, 10:09

HI nuccia, thanks for the census, no date of immigration, but all children born in Louisiana, and Joe son already married with Mary wife... now we know more, so Luca head and Mary wife immigrated before of 1899 birthyear of Joe first child... thanks, suanj
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby nuccia » 02 Apr 2006, 10:23

No Problem Suanj,

I'm happy you were able to view it :wink:

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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby suanj » 02 Apr 2006, 14:29

jcsm400 wrote:suanj.

Appears to be 1885.
Hi jcsm seem 1888.. could be..? thanks, suanj
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby ciacciomuschettofamily » 02 Apr 2006, 23:13

The date of immigration for Luca and Mary Ciaccio is 1885. At the time of 1920 cencus Luca was 69 and Mary was 64, both were considered aliens as of the 1920 census. Both answered no to question able to read or write. Both state Italy for the following Place of Birth, and, Mother tongue for mother and father. I am thinking that because of the ages, :uca and Mary, may be the grandparents of Frank age 16, Concetta age 14, Rose age 13, Tony at 10, and the married couple Joe and Mary, age 21 and 19, respectively. If not, Mary would have started having children at age 40 which would have late in that era. So in that case where are the parents?
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby ciacciomuschettofamily » 02 Apr 2006, 23:31

Information on Muschetto Draft card and Ranno Family and Tony and Rosie Muschettp provided by vj seem correct from what I have. What's my next step? Thanks!!
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby suanj » 03 Apr 2006, 01:38

Hi, in 1920 census, Luca is head, Mary is wife, and all children are named son or daughter, so is impossible a error, and they cannot be the grandparents, because they are the parents.. in fact Joe, first son is already married, and 21 old... and Mary (Luca wife) had last son when she was of 54 old... no problem this in Italy, usual.... especially in the past time! regards, suanj
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Re: looking for family in Sicily

Postby jcsm400 » 03 Apr 2006, 02:58

Unless I'm missing it (have been known to do that!) no information has been found that shows their original comune in Italy.

Do you know this information?

If not, suggest getting birth certificates for the children born here. I got lucky this way. Two certificates showed the town of birth for the parents. Also, Luca & Ibarta Ciaccio and Antonio & Maria Shiro death certificates may have the information.

Once you know the comune they came from, you can check for available filmed records for the comune @ www.familysearch.com.

Hope this helps. :)
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