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Trying to find Info on ggrandpa SABATINI

Postby wpd172 » 31 May 2006, 11:33

I am looking for information on the Sabatini name. I have no relatives left on this side of my family and I do have a copy of a 1930 census. I cannot find anymore information. I was wondering if anyone could help me?
Erman Giodo Diapolous Sabatini
Born: 1891, Italy
Died: 1959, US probably Illinois
Married to Mable Height
Born 1880 Ohio
Died 1950 Illinois
They did not have any sons, only 2 daughters, Eloise and Eugenia Nell, married Salvatore Aglieri Rinella, my grandmother and grandfather. My GGrandmother, Mable, had a daughter from a previous marriage, her name was Agnes M. and she married a guy with the last name of Jensen.
I am looking for ANY information with the Sabatini name.
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Re: Trying to find Info on ggrandpa SABATINI

Postby Incipit » 31 May 2006, 12:12

Maybe this could be the information you're searching for (from Ellisisland.org):

First Name: Ermindo
Last Name: Sabatini
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Lima, Italy
Date of Arrival: Sep 21, 1907
Age at Arrival: 16y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: La Lorraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0029

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Postby nuccia » 31 May 2006, 13:09

Could this be him?

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 Recordinfo
about Ermindo Sabatini
Name: Ermindo Sabatini
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1892
Residence: Bergen, New Jersey
Birth: Lima, Italy
Race: White
Roll: WW2_2275542

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Re: Trying to find Info on ggrandpa SABATINI

Postby suanj » 31 May 2006, 14:20

wpd172 wrote:I am looking for information on the Sabatini name. I have no relatives left on this side of my family and I do have a copy of a 1930 census. I cannot find anymore information. I was wondering if anyone could help me?
Erman Giodo Diapolous Sabatini
Born: 1891, Italy
Died: 1959, US probably Illinois
Married to Mable Height
Born 1880 Ohio
Died 1950 Illinois
They did not have any sons, only 2 daughters, Eloise and Eugenia Nell, married Salvatore Aglieri Rinella, my grandmother and grandfather. My GGrandmother, Mable, had a daughter from a previous marriage, her name was Agnes M. and she married a guy with the last name of Jensen.
I am looking for ANY information with the Sabatini name.
THANX!

Ermanno Gildo( probable) Diapoulos SABATINI this could be the right spell.. Diapoulos is greek surname and perhaps the Erman mother surname...

well your Eugenia perhaps is born in Bureau county, Illinois... however are:

1930 United States Federal Census Record
Census
View Image Name: Eugenia Sabatini
Birth: abt 1925
Residence: 1930 - city, Bureau, Illinois

1930 United States Federal Census Record
Census
View Image Name: Mable Sabatini
Birth: abt 1882
Residence: 1930 - city, Bureau, Illinois

1930 United States Federal Census Record
Census
View Image Name: Geno Sabatini
Birth: abt 1891 - location
Residence: 1930 - city, Bureau, Illinois

1930 United States Federal Census Record
Census
View Image Name: Eloise Sabatini
Birth: abt 1922
Residence: 1930 - city, Bureau, Illinois
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perhaps could be helpful to find the imm. year.. if this Geno(Gino .. Gildo?) is your ancestor as it seem, let me know...
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Postby wldspirit » 31 May 2006, 14:28

According to the census, immigration occured in 1911, and Geno was naturalized.
He is also listed as a veteran.
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Postby suanj » 31 May 2006, 14:29

Hi lisa thanks, this is a great info! kisses, suanj
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Postby suanj » 31 May 2006, 14:35

and about this records...:
4. Ermindo Sabatini Charleroi, PA 1924 31 View View View
5. Ermindo Sabatini Lima, Italy 1907 16 View View View
6. Ermindo Sabatini Piteglio, Italy 1923 31 View View View

it seem the same person, in fact also in the Ermindo from Lima(?) the father is in Piteglio, and the brother seem the same in the all ship's manifest.. in 1923 this Ermindo if was the right erman he must be already married and with eloisa daughter already, instead this Ermindo is again single in 1923!!

well the problem is to understand the first name... suanj
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Postby wldspirit » 31 May 2006, 16:49

Here is a link to the Bureau county genealogy society, Princeton is the county seat:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilbcgs/

I would pull birth, marriage and death records, as well as search for obituaries. There are not that many churches in the area, contact them as well.

Irad has numerous holdings to Bureau county, I have always found them to be very helpful.

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/depar ... hives.html

and the Illinois trails project has great links to locate more in depth info on records:

http://www.iltrails.org/ilrehelp.htm

meanwhile, members here will continue to look for info......
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Re: Trying to find Info on ggrandpa SABATINI

Postby ricbru » 31 May 2006, 18:36

Hello,
there are 2 places called Lima in Italy, both province of Pistoia, Tuscany

Lima (La) - comune: Piteglio - province: Pistoia - region: Toscana
Lima (La) - comune: San Marcello Pistoiese - province: Pistoia - region: Toscana


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Re: Trying to find Info on ggrandpa SABATINI

Postby lovedr78 » 01 Jun 2006, 02:23

Hey,

Thanks for writing me back. I sent you a message via hotmail, ancestory. Let me know if you don't get it. But the short of it was that I think the Filippo Rinella (wife Mary Amedo, daughter Tena, sons Anthony J., James Paul, and August) who was a friut vendor in Chicago IL, was my great grandfather's brother (possibly only half brother) and that he may be relation to you as well. Let me know if you have that same person in your family tree.

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Postby wpd172 » 01 Jun 2006, 02:52

Matt,
I do Filippo and Maria Amodeo Rinella in my tree. Maria's grandmother, Antonina B. Rinella (spouse Agostino S Cutrara) was the sister of my ggg grandfather Agostino Mariano Rinella (spouse Filippa diNova). I will send you what I have relating to that. Wait to you see it!!! I am going to check my email now.
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Re: Trying to find Info on ggrandpa SABATINI

Postby wpd172 » 01 Jun 2006, 03:10

Thanks, everyone for all the great information! I did locate a cousin in S.C. that is the son of Agnes Jensen, my grandmothers half sister. I am going to contact him and see if I can get more information on my great grandmother. I am still hitting a wall on Erman Sabatini. I know he went by the name Geno Sabatini here in Illinois. I am trying some of the suggestions you gave me. Ermindo from Lima, Italy was a great thought!
Erman Giodo could've very easily been Ermindo. But Ermindo from Lima had a wife by the name of Maria and they resided in Ny and NJ around the time my family was in Illinois. My late father gave me that name for his grandfather. I going to keep checking all the possibilities you sent me!
THANX!

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Re: Trying to find Info on ggrandpa SABATINI

Postby jcsm400 » 01 Jun 2006, 03:20

Illinois Deaths to 1950:

Surname-First-Middle-Sex-Age-Certificate #-Date of Death-County-Town-File Date

SABATINI ALBERT M/W UNK 6007692 1935-03-14 COOK CHICAGO 35-03-17
SABATINI AMELIA F/W UNK 0012198 1940-04-21 COOK CHICAGO - -
SABATINI ANTONIO M/W UNK 0008323 1947-03-13 COOK CHICAGO - -
SABATINI CESARE M/W UNK 0021602 1947-07-14 COOK CHICAGO - -
SABATINI DONALD ROBERT M/W D-02 0000174 1950-01-28 BUREAU 50-01-28
SABATINI EGIDIO F/W UNK 0060214 1931-06-29 BUREAU LADD 31-07-02
SABATINI EGIDIO M/W Y-73 0008610 1935-02-18 BUREAU LADD - -
SABATINI GUIDITA F/W UNK 0000147 1946-01-08 BUREAU SPRING VALLEY - -
SABATINI JOSEPH M/W UNK 2500014 1922-02-10 LA SALLE LA SALLE 22-02-11
SABATINI JOSEPH ALEX M/W Y-19 0023191 1950-06-08 BUREAU 50-06-08
SABATINI LEO M/W UNK 0110140 1927-04-09 CHRISTIAN BULPITT 27-04-11
SABATINI LOUISA F/W Y-64 0000216 1941-06-06 BUREAU SPRING VALLEY - -
SABATINI MABEL AMANDA F/W Y-69 0009018 1950-03-07 BUREAU 50-03-07
SABATINI MARTHA F/W Y-36 0000233 1942-06-09 LA SALLE SOUTH OTTAWA TWP - -
SABATINI MARY F/W UNK 6037801 1936-12-27 COOK CHICAGO 36-12-29
SABATINI NATALIE F/W UNK 2010565 1926-12-10 ADAMS QUINCY 26-12-11
SABATINI PALMA F/W Y-63 0046099 1949-11-11 LA SALLE 49-11-11
SABATINI ROSE M N/S UNK 0001147 1939-10-31 PEORIA PEORIA

Could this be your Mable?

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Re: Trying to find Info on ggrandpa SABATINI

Postby nuccia » 01 Jun 2006, 03:42

nuccia wrote:Could this be him?

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 Recordinfo
about Ermindo Sabatini
Name: Ermindo Sabatini
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1892
Residence: Bergen, New Jersey
Birth: Lima, Italy
Race: White
Roll: WW2_2275542

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So does this mean it could be him...living in NJ, wife Marie?

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Re: Trying to find Info on ggrandpa SABATINI

Postby wpd172 » 01 Jun 2006, 06:10

The list of Illinois deaths that lists Mabel Sabatini, that is my great granmother. I found that connection after the first replies to my post. Thank you!
The jury is still out for me on the Ermindo Sabatini with a different wife in N.J. I guess anything is possible. I have a call into a couple of my siblings to see what they remember. I'll keep you posted!
Thanks for all the help! I appreciate it!


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