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Postby craigricci » 01 Jun 2006, 05:43

I have just started trying to find out more about my family and I came across this site in the process. I am hoping that someone can provide me with some tips and advice on where to go next.

So far... I know that both of my grandparents came over from Italy, although not together and not at the same time. My grandfather came over first... although I'm not sure when exactly. His name was Domenico Ricci and based on conversations with other family members he was likely travelling with one or two brothers. He may not have come through Ellis Island... I have not found any record that fits his description on the Ellis Island site. Also... relatives seem to think he first arrived in Boston.

My grandmother came over in 1920. I have found her ship manifest on Ellis Island... it reads:

irst Name: Esterina
Last Name: Giammarco
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Introdaqua, Acquila
Date of Arrival: Sep 15, 1920
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Olympic
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0013

Although it indicates she was single, the manifest also states she was met by her "husband - Domenico Ricci, 125 Dante Place, Buffalo" On the back, it states as her nearest relative in country from whence she came as, "Peligiari Giammarco - Aquila, Introdaqua, Italy"

I believe my grandparents were married in New York, possibly in New York City... although they lived most of their life in Buffalo. I know they died in Buffalo.

This is all I know so far... I don't really have any relatives left from this side of my family. Both of my grandparents died when my father was very young. All of their children are deceased except for my father... but he was too young when they died to remember anything.

Thanks for all the help....

=Craig.

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Postby wldspirit » 01 Jun 2006, 06:12

Can you provide names of any children born to them? Helps to CORRECTLY identify the family on census........will start looking to see what I can find.......meanwhile, here is an excellent outline on research procedures.........

http://www.graonline.com/cgi-bin/gra/do ... gratrailer

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Postby nuccia » 01 Jun 2006, 06:18

delete...I made an oops! :oops:

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Postby nuccia » 01 Jun 2006, 06:19

Sorry wldspirit..

We must have posted at the same time! :oops:

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Postby wldspirit » 01 Jun 2006, 06:21

According to your post, she arrived in September of 1920, the census was taken in January of 1920........???

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Postby craigricci » 01 Jun 2006, 06:23

Thanks for the prompt responses. I'll check into that research article.

As far as children... they had 5:

1. Ann (or Anne)
2. Helen
3. Laura
4. Gerald
5. David

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Postby wldspirit » 01 Jun 2006, 06:24

Will help to identify Dom's birthdate....

Note* Domenico's death in 1950..........wife Esterina in 1951.........





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Postby vj » 01 Jun 2006, 06:37

Craig,
Always, great advice from wldspirit!

and since you asked...
It sounds like you've made a great start, you've talked to relatives, you've searched for records.
An opinion, in general,
- start with what you know
- find all US records possible, and look for birthplace in Italy, if you don't have it - you'll need it for Italian records
- look for primary records (birth, ship manifests, military, death, obituaries, etc)
these are records that took place near the time of an event
- use this info to scout out secondary records that may have more clues

example: you have Esterina's birth date, you know the family is from Buffalo.
you can use this to hunt for a census (notorious for mis-spelling names & inaccurate dates)
using 'Ester', with a birth date about 1901 in Italy, looking in Buffalo =

Possible 1930 US Census (if you don't already have it)
616 South Division Street, Buffalo, Erie, NY
Dominic RITCHE, 40 yrs old (abt 1889), married age 30 (abt 1919), immig 1913 Na,
laborer - steel plant, served in military WWI, owns house $3,000
wife Ester, 29 yrs old (abt 1900), married age 19, immig 1920 Na
(children all born in NY)
daughter Anna, 7 yrs old (abt 1922)
daughter Laura, 5 yrs old (abt 1924)
daughter Helen, 3 yrs 9 mos old (abt 1926)
brother Pasquale, 43 yrs old, single (abt 1886), immig 1910 Pa, laborer - bldg const

Only a start, hope this helps - every 'fact' can lead to more finds...

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Re: Just getting started...

Postby craigricci » 01 Jun 2006, 06:39

Nuccia,

I don't think that is the correct 1920 census for my grandparents. I believe my grandfather lived in Buffalo for most of his life. He died in 1950 and was approximately 59. Esterina died about one year later, in 1951.

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Postby nuccia » 01 Jun 2006, 06:41

craig,

I realized your right...it isn't the correct info at all! I'll delete it so that there won't be any confusion. I believe that perhaps vj has found the correct census. If so, let me know and I can link it for you!

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Postby craigricci » 01 Jun 2006, 06:41

VJ thanks for the post. I don't have that information yet, but that's definately my grandfather.

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Postby craigricci » 01 Jun 2006, 06:42

Thank nuccia, that would be great if you could link it for me.

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Postby wldspirit » 01 Jun 2006, 06:43

Given the childrens names VJ.....that has to be the right census....... :wink:

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Postby nuccia » 01 Jun 2006, 06:46

Great find vj...as always.

Ok craig, here's the link for the right census..

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/8964/image1x7ou.gif

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Postby wldspirit » 01 Jun 2006, 06:52

Both are naturalized, you can send for naturalization papers here:

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/h ... NATREC.htm

using form:

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/g-639.htm

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