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Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby carslake2002 » 15 Jul 2006, 15:23

Hello all, please help if you can.

My Great Grandfather, Felice Dimuccio (dimucci, demouchio) and his wife Maria arrived in Hull, UK in 1891. They had a son Andrew(Andra) who was either born directly on landing or during passage. They do not figure in the 1891 census but can be found in the 1901 Uk census in York UK. They are then listed under the name Phillips, Felice is 36 and Maria (now listed as Mary) is 29.Andrew is 9 and all are listed qas Italian nationals. Felices occupation is listed as organ grinder (although i believe he only pulled the organ for another man)

Family history says that Felice originated from Milan and had (was travelling with?) a brother who went on to USA (Pittsburgh) perhaps Felice had to cut their journey short due to Maria’s condition and ended up in UK? I have contacted Hull records office but unfortunately no shipping records exist.(Do embarkation records exist in Italy?)

I am very keen to know for certain where Felice and Maria came from and to find out about the Brother who went to USA and any family, if you have any suggestions at all please let me know.

Thanks a lot, Julian "Phillips" (Dimuccio)

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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby suanj » 15 Jul 2006, 16:44

Hi, in Pittsburgh,PA I found only this records, and the surname could be Di Mucci or Di Muccio, but the transcrition seem mistaken:
- Amrico(Americo) Dinucci Pittsburgh Ward 8, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1895 Italy race
-Joseph (Giuseppe) De Nuccio
[Joseph Denuccio] Pittsburgh Ward 8, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1875 Italy

perhaps someone can look the imm. year...
however I don't believe that your ancestor came from Milan, because your surname is of southern Italy.. regards, suanj
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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby carslake2002 » 15 Jul 2006, 17:20

Thanks suanj, i thinkyou may be correct about southern Italy, most of the later entries in the ellis island records for dimuccio seem to originate from close to Naples?. Would it be a viable to check logs for ships leaving naples for Hull in 1891? or would this be too big a task(always thinking they might have left from genoa or trieste anyway). i would be gratefull if someone could look at immigration details for me, i can only access very rudimentary info.

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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby suanj » 15 Jul 2006, 17:57

Di Muccio or Di Mucci ( are similars but however are 2 different surnames) both are of south Italy and some person living currently in the north Italy they are descendants of south italians emigrated in the north Italy... also it is possible that your ancestor came before in USA and after in UK, as many italians that in the first time of arrival they had bad luck in USA, so emigrated in UK... the place it is impossible to say, because are :
-Di Muccio in Campania region and in Basilicata region
-Di Mucci in Molise region

obviously someone of this are also in Apulia etc, but mainly this are the right regions....

organ grinder... with precison what make a organ grinder? what is the right word in italian for this profession? is the "Arrotino"? http://www.ilportaledinapoli.it/immagini/arrotino.jpg

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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby VaDeb » 15 Jul 2006, 20:07

Hi suanj:

Organ Grinder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_grinder


The organ grinder was a musical novelty street performer of the 19th century and the early part of the 20th century

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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby suanj » 15 Jul 2006, 20:25

Hi debbie thanks, was a musician, ok!!! now is more easy, because the large part of musicians was from Lazio or Molise or Campania region, thanks, kisses, suanj
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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby suanj » 15 Jul 2006, 20:54

I found the same name: Felice Di Muccio in Valle Agricola (Caserta province, Campania region); for to help better, you must know almost some sure data as birthdate, or name father, or name mother, or maiden name of wife.. regards, suanj
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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby suanj » 15 Jul 2006, 21:19

Hi, if someone look up this record maybe helpful:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
View Record Joseph Dimucci date race Pittsburgh, Allegheny, info
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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby carslake2002 » 15 Jul 2006, 22:58

Hi, Suanj. If it helps Felice was 36 on census in January 1901 so must have been born in 1864?, If this fits with the person you have, i could try to get exact birth date, it may give Marias maiden name on Andrews birth certificate but as they seem to be named Phillips almost immediately(although Andrews death certificate still said Dimuccio , i am told) they might not have been too exact ?.

I would be pleased if you could let me know how likely the match is. Thanks very very much for your help.

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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby jcsm400 » 15 Jul 2006, 23:13

For your suanj....WWI draft card for Joseph Dimucci in Pittsburgh.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1176 ... wwiai3.jpg

Really bad image!

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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby suanj » 16 Jul 2006, 10:47

HI Joyce, thanks, the birthdate seem 3 June o July 1875, but no birthplace.. the wife was Isabella...... perhaps from 1920 census are the year immigration
Joseph De Nuccio
[Joseph Denuccio] Pittsburgh Ward 8, Allegheny, Pennsylvania abt 1875 Italy
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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby nuccia » 16 Jul 2006, 12:30

Sorry, suanj..

Just got up...did you want this image linked?

1920 United States Federal Census Recordinfo
about Joseph De Nuccio
Name: Joseph De Nuccio
[Joseph Denuccio]
Age: 45 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: Pittsburgh Ward 8, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Home owned: Rent
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1897
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image: 804

For some reason, neither ancestry nor imageshack will let me upload or email the actual file..I've never seen that before! I tried to email it to you directly suanj but no luck.. :?

ok, I went a different route and got it linked..

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7927 ... tomrd9.jpg

Was starting to worry there for a bit!

Nuccia :D

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Re: Dimuccio/ Dimucci

Postby suanj » 16 Jul 2006, 13:56

thanks Nuccia, I search the ship's manifest of this Joseph, but no luck again,kisses, suanj
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