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Pignataro/Guarino/Dattale/Ambrosena and Pace/Molinari/Cicci

Postby shazam989 » 29 Jul 2006, 23:50

I am seeking information about my family history. Anyone have any information about the

Pignataro/Santamaria Pignataro/Dattale Dattale/Ambrosena Santamaria/Guarino or Santamaria/Panebianco families From the Potenza and Albano di Lucania, areas of Basilicata?

as well as

Pace/Molinari and Cicci families from Bari

I have some information that I would be willing to share and pass along to other distant family members.

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Postby nuccia » 30 Jul 2006, 00:06

Hi There,

Could you be a bit more specific in what you are looking for? We find that if you include first names, birth years, places they settled, etc then people are more willing to help and its much easier to narrow down info.

Can you also tell us what info you already have so we don't duplicate info?

Nuccia :D

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Postby shazam989 » 30 Jul 2006, 10:26

Sorry about not being specific. But here is the information I have already.

My great grandfather Ernesto Pignataro immigrated to US in about 1914 or so from Muro Lucano or Bella, Potenza province in Basilicata Italy. He married Maria Santa Maria who also immigrated from the same area.

Ernesto was one of about 9 children, Cataldo, Louis, Eleanor, Michael, Mario, Richard, Louis, Ernesto, and Leonard.

Ernesto was the son of Stefano Pignataro and Carmella Maria Dattale

Carmella Dattale was the daughter of Louis Dattale and Catherine Ambrosena. As far as I know Stefano was from Bella a small village near Muro Lucano which is about 15 miles or so northwest of the City of Potenza, Italy.

as far as Ernesto's wife Maria Santa Maria. She is the daughter of Vito Santo Santa Maria and Angela Guarino.

Vito was born in Palo Del Colle, Bari but lived most of his life in Montepeloso, Potenza. His father was Pietro Santamaria and mother Prudenza Zagariello.

Angela Guarino was from Albano Di lucania.

Now Vito Santa Maria was married before Angela to someone and had Pietro and Prudenza Greco. Angela Guarino was also married once before with two children Vittoria and Antonia


Ernesto's son Vito or Victor (my grandfather) Married Antoinette Pace.

Her father and mother my great grandparents are Pietro Pace and Lucia Molinari

Pietro was from Castel Grande, near Bari and Lucia was from Bari area

The Molinari family are decendents of the Cicci Family

If this helps anyone or there is anything anyone can help me with please let me know thank you

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Postby wldspirit » 30 Jul 2006, 14:13

You have alot of detailed info......do you have all US records?? Are you looking for help in researching records for Italy? Or are you just hoping to connect with others researching these same lines??
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Postby shazam989 » 01 Aug 2006, 00:28

No I do not have all US records. This is information that has been passed on from family members. I am searching for ways to validate this information for one thing and also hoping to connect with someone also researching these same lines. I am also lookign for ways and possibly some help in researching records in Italy.

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Postby wldspirit » 01 Aug 2006, 00:46

In which US state would these families appear in records?
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Postby jcsm400 » 01 Aug 2006, 01:23

Hi Jonathan,

Is this the correct Ernesto Pignatasro?

First Name: Ernesto
Last Name: Pignataro
Ethnicity: Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Muro Lucien, Potenza
Date of Arrival: Nov 25, 1910
Age at Arrival: 18y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Konig Albert
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0002

Page 1
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0581%2ETIF


Page 2

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 1484070393


1920 United States Federal Census Record

Name: Ernest Pignataro
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 18, New York, New York
Age: 27 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1900
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Household Members: Name Age
Ernest Pignataro 27
Mary Pignataro 23
Carnell Pignataro 4
Stephen Pignataro 2 6/12
Vito Pignataro 3/12

Can link image of census if you need it.

Let us know about the above records & also what records you already have, so we don't duplicate research.

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Postby shazam989 » 01 Aug 2006, 02:50

Yes thank you that would be my great grandfather Ernesto. He was married to Maria Santa Maria and they had Carmella which looks to be listed as Carnel and Stephen and Vito (my grandfather).

Most of the information should be found in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut, possibly Massachusetts because my great aunt Carmella (my grandfathers older sister) moved to Haverhill Mass and married Louis Zinzi.

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Postby jcsm400 » 01 Aug 2006, 05:40

Possible SSDI info.

Social Security Death Index Record
Name: Ernest Pignataro
SSN: 131-12-2031
Last Residence: 12550 Newburgh, Orange, New York, United States of America
Born: 2 May 1892
Died: Nov 1966
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951 )


To trace the family in Muro Lucano:

Records prior to 1809 & from 1866-present, you'll have to write the comune.

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Muro Lucano
85054 MURO LUCANO (PZ)
ITALY

Letter should be in Italian & include a self addressed return envelope, copy of your photo ID, and an international reply coupon (obtain from your post office...covers the return postage). Here is a link to some form letters.

http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... /index.asp

The LDS Church (Mormans) has filmed the records for 1809-1865. Here is a link to the available films.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... o+civile++

Link to locate your local LDS-Family History Center.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... et_fhc.asp

Link to a guide on obtainting the films.

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... =2581.html

Hope this helps.

:) jcsm
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Postby nuccia » 01 Aug 2006, 07:44

Heres the link to the 1920 Census that Nonna J found for you.. :D

1920 Census for Ernest

Page 2

Nuccia :D

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Postby jcsm400 » 01 Aug 2006, 07:50

PS. Forgot to mention that the 1920 census (info above) is a two pager with the children on the second page & also Vito & Angelina SantaMaria & their son Thomas.
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Postby nuccia » 01 Aug 2006, 09:15

Thanks Nonna... :D

I'll add it on..

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Postby jcsm400 » 01 Aug 2006, 11:10

Thanks Nuccia. If you want to link census go ahead...since ancestry did their change I can't save anything.....need to call them. :?

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Postby nuccia » 01 Aug 2006, 12:34

jcsm400 wrote:Thanks Nuccia. If you want to link census go ahead...since ancestry did their change I can't save anything.....need to call them. :?

hugs,
:) nonna j


I know..the change is a bit strange, isn't it? This is how I save it on mine. I click save and then 3 options appear..1..add this person to a tree..2. save this person to your shoe box and 3. Save to computer..

Not sure if you get the same message but if you need any help let me know...we seem to go through changes together a lot... :D :D

Nuccia :D :D

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Postby jcsm400 » 01 Aug 2006, 20:03

Hi Nucccia,

Good morning.

I don't get three options...only "start a tree with this person," with continue or cancel. I hate the new way that they have everything! :evil: :evil:

:) nonna j

PS. Thanks for linking
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