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Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby hcoene1 » 02 Aug 2006, 20:52

I have been researching my family lineage for about 3 years. Casaretti is my grandmothers side. Her parents were Nicholas Casaretti and wife Luisa Vacari Casaretti. Per their death certificates both were born in 1852 and came to the USA in 1869, also the year they were married. Their brother, Anthony b. 1849 came to USA in 1887 with wife Maggie V? These two brothers were both candy makers and many of their children also became candy makers. They settled in the Rochester NY area. Their parents were Luigi Casaretti and Katherine Sanguiri.
All the death certificates say they were from Chiavari, Italy. Looking on a map, I found a hamlet a couple of miles outsde of Chiavari called Casaretti.
We are planning a trip to research this better to Chiavari sometime in 2007. I am even taking Italian lessons to prepare for this. I really feel i am entering the unknown and do not know how to continue. I would love to find their immigration records, ship, church in Italy, etc. Just as much as I could before we take the trip.
I would also appreciate any advice for the trip. Where to stay, how to get around, were to visit, what to contact before we depart,, is there help available in Italy?.

Most of the data I have is from death certificates, US Census, etc. I have found some stange things which make me question things. There are variations on the spelling - probably changes for whatever reason. One of the sons of Nicholas "changed" his name to CASARIETTI, maybe a mistake as he learned to write English. Another branch simply dropped the "i" making it Casarett. I have a total of 39 Casaretti's and variations mention here in my tree with maybe 10-12 more living soon to be added.

I am so proud of my Italian heritage. There are recipes for candy still around as well as ravioli. They started many businesses in the area which survive in some form to this day. Many of the descendants are in medicine, science, and art. Any help or guidance would be most appreciated. Thank you.
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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby nuccia » 02 Aug 2006, 23:10

Could this be one manifest for Nicola? He was already a citizen in 1905 if this is him.

First Name: Nicalo
Last Name: Cazaretti
Ethnicity: U.S. citizen
Last Place of Residence: Lenova
Date of Arrival: Mar 20, 1905
Age at Arrival: 53y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: La Savoie
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0016

Nicola Manifest 1905

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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby nuccia » 02 Aug 2006, 23:16

Another possible manifest..travelling with Antonio..

Nicola Manifest 1911 Page 1

Page 2

First Name: Nicola
Last Name: Casaretto
Ethnicity: USC
Last Place of Residence:
Date of Arrival: Sep 25, 1911
Age at Arrival: 60y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Rochambeau
Port of Departure: Le Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0027


First Name: Antonio
Last Name: Casaretto
Ethnicity: USC
Last Place of Residence:
Date of Arrival: Sep 25, 1911
Age at Arrival: 63y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Rochambeau
Port of Departure: Le Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0028

Hope this helps so far...still looking....
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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby nuccia » 02 Aug 2006, 23:29

Here are Antonio and family in the 1900 Census, as well as Nick and Family..

1900 United States Federal Census Record
about Anthony Casaretti
Name: Anthony Casaretti
Home in 1900: Rochester Ward 18, Monroe, New York
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
BirthPlace: Italy
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouses's Name: Maggie V
Race: White
Occupation: View Image
Immigration year: 1887
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Anthony Casaretti 51
Maggie V Casaretti 49
Louis J Casaretti 27
David Casaretti 21
George Casaretti 15
Theresa Casaretti 19
Verginia Casaretti 13
John Casaretti 5

1900 Census

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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby jcsm400 » 02 Aug 2006, 23:53

Here is the official website for the comune of Chiavari. You can request birth, marriage, & death acts from them. Requests should be in Italian. It also has other information that may help with your trip.

http://www.comune.chiavari.ge.it/

To help translate the above website, copy & paste, select language to language @ this site.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/


Email address for the registry office:

anagrafe@comune.chiavari.ge.it


Hope this helps & have a wonderful trip.

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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby hcoene1 » 03 Aug 2006, 00:44

Bith of these manifests occur after they appear on US Census. Thanks for all your help. I appreciate it.
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Postby nuccia » 12 Aug 2006, 07:27

Glad these are the persons you were searching for! Let us know if theres anything else we can help you with!

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Postby hcoene1 » 12 Aug 2006, 22:29

nuccia wrote:Glad these are the persons you were searching for! Let us know if theres anything else we can help you with!

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Thanks again. i am having a lot of trouble finding out what happened to Anthony (Antonio). He does not appear in any US Census except 1900! Yet, through evidence like the manifest you shared shows he was alive and a US Citizen. His wife, Maggie, is also missing. Maybe they did go back to Italy. I do show his business, the Rochester Candy Works, was in business up until 1910 at least (though I can not yet say for certain that he owned it). So that is one area I need help.
I still need to find time to contact Italy, probably through the church in Chiavari. I need also to contact the Roman catholic church here in Rochester to see if their records are accessible.
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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby vj » 12 Aug 2006, 23:40

Antonio CASARETTI Family

Tom wrote,
"i am having a lot of trouble finding out what happened to Anthony (Antonio). He does not appear in any US Census except 1900"

possible 1910 US Census (very hard to read)
Perinton (Fairport?), Monroe, NY
Bushnell's Basin, owns, farm
- Anthony CASARLOTTI, 65, married 42 yrs, immig 1887 Na,
Farmer - General Farm, working on own account
- wife Margaret, 63, 6 children born/living, immig 1887
- daughter Theresa, 28, immig 1887, Ticket Agent - Electric Railroad
- son Joseph, 26, immig 1887 Na, Ticket Agent - Electric Railroad
- son John, 15 b in NY

possible 1920 US Census
Perinton, Monroe, NY
owns, farm
- Joseph CARARETTE, 35, single, b in Italy, immig unknown, Na,
manufacturer - candy, working on own account
- mother Minnie?, 69 or 79, widow, b in Italy, immig (can't read), Na 1892?
- sister Theresa, 38, single, b in Italy, immig unknown, No?,
tailoress - clothing
- sister Virginia, 32, single, b in Italy, immig unknown, Na,
labor - weaver?,
- brother John, 24, single, b in NY, teacher - common? school

another possible clue?
on 1918 WWI Draft Card son Joseph lists mother Minnie CASARETTI
as nearest relative (at same address):
Joseph CASARETTE
Pittsford, Monroe, NY
35 yrs old, b 16 Dec 1884
citizen
self-employed farmer

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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby jcsm400 » 13 Aug 2006, 04:01

The 1910 image @ ancestry is terrible, so will see if HQ has a better image.

Edit: Sorry, image @ HQ is bad too.....Going to leave this one for Nuccia. Nuccia, where are you? :D :D

1920 census

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1562 ... 920mi3.jpg

WWI Draft Registration Crad

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3244/c ... wwign3.jpg

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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby mfjp » 13 Aug 2006, 10:49

1920 census image...

Hopefully this will view in a larger format...

Won't know until I link it....

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4852 ... gerts6.jpg

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Further... ok ..link is fine... immigration date is unknown... but they were Naturalized in 1892 ( and not 1992 as listed.... just way too close to home eh?)

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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby nuccia » 13 Aug 2006, 18:33

Good morning.. :D

Just checking in..went up North yesterday and didn't get in until after 2 last night. Yes, the 1910 census is horrible. Not sure if I can make it any clearer but I will try later on today.

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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby hcoene1 » 14 Aug 2006, 01:45

Thanks to all who have helped out (and this has been great help). I am meeting a relative for the 1st time on Tuesday....a third cousin. I hope she can do some leg work. I have found out that Anthony started the Rochester Candy Works in the 1890's. There were so many candy makers in the family.

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Re: Casaretti from Chiavari area

Postby hcoene1 » 30 Aug 2006, 02:18

I have contacted a 3rd cousin who I did not know and I have also written to Chiavari, Italy. I have several other 3rd cousins and the like to contact. Great fun. Wish me luck. Your help has been great...now I need to make some progress on the Italian side of the ocean.

I found two hamlets in Italy named "Casaretti". One is only a couple miles east of Chiavari and the 2nd is near to Parma. Is there a chance these hamlets are somehow related to my lineage? How would I find out?

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Postby nuccia » 30 Aug 2006, 05:14

hcoene1 wrote:I have contacted a 3rd cousin who I did not know and I have also written to Chiavari, Italy. I have several other 3rd cousins and the like to contact. Great fun. Wish me luck. Your help has been great...now I need to make some progress on the Italian side of the ocean.

I found two hamlets in Italy named "Casaretti". One is only a couple miles east of Chiavari and the 2nd is near to Parma. Is there a chance these hamlets are somehow related to my lineage? How would I find out?

Thanks again to all who have helped. This site is the best! :D :D


Glad that things are working out for you and I hope you will continue to post your findings here. We all love to hear about people's progress.

About the other town....Anything's possible. I found several of my family married into families of neighbouring hamlets so you won't know until you actually research it.

Out of curiousity, have you researched the microfilm available (if it is available..sorry, I didn't check) of the towns? This may be a great avenue for you to try.


You're right...this is a very good forum and I hope it continues to stay that way. Its the wonderful posters who make it so special. :D :D


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