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Genaro Caivano Formicola (POntelatone)

Postby scorpione » 03 Aug 2006, 22:55

Hi ,

I know I am grasping at straws but this is the last piece of a missing puzzle until I arrive in Italy next year and gain access to church records prior to 1809.Can some kind person tell me anything about the following:

I know that a Genaro Caivano was mayor of Pontelatone from 1842-1845.Yet I can only find a Genaro Caivano born in Formicola(a very close town to Pontelatone) in 1830 to Giovanni Caivano and Maddelena Catone and another Genaro Caivano born in 1858 in Pontelatone to Francesco Caivano and Pietromila Domenico.Finally there is a record of Genaro Caivano and Cristina Capone having a child named Maria Goivanna in
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. You can see that the Giovanni born in 1858 could not be mayor in 1842 nor could the Genaro born in 1830 as he would be a 12 year old mayor

I know this is asking a great deal but I am hoping that there is somebody who can help me with this problem. Thanks in advance . joe

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Postby vineviz » 04 Aug 2006, 00:58

Someone becoming mayor in 1842 could easily have been born prior to 1809, as you surmise, but he would likely have gotten married after 1809: have you checked the marriage records as well as birth records?

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Postby jcsm400 » 04 Aug 2006, 01:22

Perhaps the town can help you.


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Postby mfjp » 05 Aug 2006, 09:09

removed...

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Postby scorpione » 05 Aug 2006, 19:29

mfjp,

It was very kind of you to reply and the information you gave is very interesting. However, unless I miss the point, I don't see how that will change anything. You note that young people may have worked in my town's office but add that dad still signed the form.In my case the Genaro who was born in about 1830 would have been the 12 year old who would have been working in the office,but it would have been his dad (not named Genaro ) who would have signed his different name.Or perhaps I have missed the point. thanks in any case for your kind reply.Incidentally , does anybody know what Genaro means in English. Thanks.

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Postby mfjp » 05 Aug 2006, 19:56

scorpione wrote:.Incidentally , does anybody know what Genaro means in English. Thanks.


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Postby suanj » 05 Aug 2006, 20:06

Finally there is a record of Genaro Caivano and Cristina Capone having a child named Maria Goivanna in
1851


It could be that this Gennaro Caivano married at Cristina Capone, was born no in Pontelatone, but only resident after marriage... otherwise it was in Pontelatone births.... so you search the marriage record of this spouses, and you can to descover where this Gennaro was born.... suanj
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Postby suanj » 05 Aug 2006, 20:18

In Italy, Gerardo, Geraldo, and Gennaro are different first name, all for saints devotion..
San Geraldo http://www.santiebeati.it/dettaglio/92106
San Gerardo http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Gerardo_dei_Tintori
San Gennaro http://www.enrosadira.it/santi/g/gennaro.htm .. Gennaro first name, for Saint Gennaro devotion, coming from latin word Januarius, ( sacred at Giano) and in the time Januarius become Ianuario and finally Gennaro... In foreign country I don't know, because Januarius/Ianuario/Gennaro http://www.napoletanita.it/genn.htm

is a january name month.. http://www.etimo.it/?term=gennaio
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Postby vineviz » 06 Aug 2006, 10:54

suanj wrote: is a january name month.. http://www.etimo.it/?term=gennaio


Yes, January would be the most literal translation of Gennaro into English but there is not really an equivalent name in English.

Gennaro is a common name, especially around Naples I think.

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Postby suanj » 06 Aug 2006, 15:04

this name in english don't exist.. it must be always Gennaro ... not all first names can be translated, Gennaro not have the right english equivalent.. suanj
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Postby nuccia » 06 Aug 2006, 18:10

Could also be Gerry..or Jerry. I have friends here who use these names for Gennaro.

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Postby suanj » 06 Aug 2006, 19:01

the different culture is present especially in the translations of first names..

for exemple in Italy are Sabato first name (=Saturday/born in Saturday); or Primo (First/first son); Secondo (Second/second son);Quintino (little fifth); Decimo (Tenth/ tenth son) etc...

it is a different culture.... and vineviz say that this is a literal translation .. but this mean nothing, because a first name is only a first name, and for someone are the english equivalent, but for some other no; and to translate it approximately is no same thing.... so I believe that in this case is better to leave the first name in italian language... almost is really pertaining... and Gennaro is the first name in honor of San (Saint) Gennaro of Naples: the Saint so great and famous in all world!! 1 year ago, Peter Timber invited me for San Gennaro feast in Los Angeles, and same feast are in all USA towns.. the name is always the same... and in all world... this first name is impossible to translate...
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