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Looking for Manifest

Postby DebraRose » 04 Aug 2006, 05:15

I am looking for the manifest or the 1920 or 1930 census for Anthony Antonacci his was born on jan 1, 1887 died in Nov 1965 he lived in the Bronx and New York city he was single. he came from Castlevecchio Calviso province of L"Aquila. thank you His father name was Luigi Antonacci and his mother name was Angela Costantini any help I would apprecaite. thank you

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Postby vj » 04 Aug 2006, 05:44

In 1930 it appears that Anthony and his brother Giovanni may have been living together in the Bronx. Although Anthony's age is off by 6 years!

Bronx District 62, Bronx, NY
708 Courtland Ave, rents $27 mo
John ANTONACCI, head, 50 (1880), married age 47 (1927),
immig 1904 Na, dealer - ice
Anthony ANTONACCI, brother, 37 (1893)??, single,
immig 1910 Al, dealer - ice

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Postby DebraRose » 04 Aug 2006, 06:02

Hi Was John birth at 1880 and his wife name is Maria and son name is Angelo he was born in 1928 if so can you send me the information on this census this could help me find his manifest. you see my grandfather was an ice delivey trucker. and I believe thats what their occupation was. thanks agan. John and Anthony are brothers this would be a great find.

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Postby vj » 04 Aug 2006, 06:09

possible related manifest 22 Apr 1909
Antonio Antonacci b 1892
joining brother Giovanni
father in Castlevecchio Luigi
page 1
http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_wei ... &line=0007
page 2
http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_wei ... &line=0007

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Re: Looking for Manifest

Postby DebraRose » 04 Aug 2006, 07:11

It looks like that him . have you any luck with Giovanni manifest. thansks so much did you find this on ellis island website I look and could not find anything thanks so much for your find. Debbie do you have the 1930 census for giovanni. or the 1920 i would like to know what is says thanks again.

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Postby jcsm400 » 04 Aug 2006, 08:53

Hi Debra & Valarie,

Here is the link to the 1930 census.

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3959 ... 930yv3.jpg

I did see this, but was looking for the "whole" family. Thanks Valarie for providing it.

Census shows that John was married twice.

Also, there are census listings for other John Antonacci & variations who were born sbout the same year, so the manifest information could be for one of them....Debra will have to verify.

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Re: Looking for Manifest

Postby DebraRose » 05 Aug 2006, 03:19

jcsm400 wrote:Hi Debra & Valarie,

Here is the link to the 1930 census.

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3959 ... 930yv3.jpg

I did see this, but was looking for the "whole" family. Thanks Valarie for providing it.

Census shows that John was married twice.

Also, there are census listings for other John Antonacci & variations who were born sbout the same year, so the manifest information could be for one of them....Debra will have to verify.

jcsm
I am almost sure its them, they only think is Giovanni had a
son in 1928 but he was born in Italy, so is that why they are not on the cenus where on the census does it say he was married twice what line is it on. thanks for your help. Debbie

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Postby jcsm400 » 05 Aug 2006, 04:40

Colunm #14 is "marital condition"......looked like a 2 in front of the M, but after looking at it again, I think it is just the way the "M" is written. :oops:

In your other post you weren't sure if Angelo was born in Italy or US.....gave you the information to obtain his ss application.....this will list his birth place. If born in Italy, it's possible that Giovanni returned to Italy to marry & his wife & son arrived after the 1930 census. EllisIsland website only goes to 1924, so you wouldn't find a return trip for Giovanni, nor the arrival of his wife & son if that is the case. You will need to check the NARA films for arrival. Here is a link to the films.

http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/ny1902.html
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Re: Looking for Manifest

Postby DebraRose » 05 Aug 2006, 08:09

jcsm400 wrote:Colunm #14 is "marital condition"......looked like a 2 in front of the M, but after looking at it again, I think it is just the way the "M" is written. :oops:

In your other post you weren't sure if Angelo was born in Italy or US.....gave you the information to obtain his ss application.....this will list his birth place. If born in Italy, it's possible that Giovanni returned to Italy to marry & his wife & son arrived after the 1930 census. EllisIsland website only goes to 1924, so you wouldn't find a return trip for Giovanni, nor the arrival of his wife & son if that is the case. You will need to check the NARA films for arrival. Here is a link to the films.

http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/ny1902.html


Thank you so much for your help, I have one more question about Antonia, how would I find out when he died I know it was in new york Ihe date I have is nov 1965 but his birth date was off.in the census. He is not buried in the cemetery where his brother is. and he was never married. Whre would I look for his naturalization in the bronx and death certificate, He is the only one in Italy I could not get a birth certiifcate for. any help i would appreciate thanks again

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Re: Looking for Manifest

Postby mfjp » 05 Aug 2006, 08:32

I'm amazed at all the wonderful work the forum members have done for your family history!! At times it would be a good idea to go to a LDS family history centre and use the computers there as they are also connected to Ancestry. com...

I don't think they charge one penny to use their computers... all you have to do is make an appointment...

I always felt it was best to do your American family history first (just like the members are doing for you) before researching the Italian records...

Good luck with your research!

Maria

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Re: Looking for Manifest

Postby jcsm400 » 05 Aug 2006, 09:18

mfjp wrote:
I don't think they charge one penny to use their computers... all you have to do is make an appointment...

Maria


Don't even have to make an appointmment at mine.....it's a smaller one. :)




Debra,

Here is a link to info on obtaining a New York death certificate.

http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records/

And a link to online database for naturalizations in New York county. It also includes a link to a form to request naturalization records.

http://www.italiangen.org/databaselist.stm

Hope they help.

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