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I am looking for family members living in Monreale, Sicily,

Postby Lagunasuz » 09 Aug 2006, 21:03

I am looking for family members that came from Monreale, Sicily with the surname Piro, first name Vincenzo, his wife's name was Angelina Tumminello, they left out of Palermo on the SS Massiha September 1903 and arrived New Orleans October 1903, they came with a friend Pietro Marino Decatur. Any help would be well appreciated.
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Postby suanj » 09 Aug 2006, 21:25

PIRO in Monreale:
http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... c=&x=0&y=0

Tumminello in Monreale:
http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... c=&x=0&y=0

you can write a letter and to ask if they are related with your ancestors... suanj
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Postby jcsm400 » 09 Aug 2006, 22:27

Hi Suzanne,

Are you interested in just connecting with relatives or are you interested in tracing your Piro family :?:

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Postby Lagunasuz » 09 Aug 2006, 22:38

Thank you for the information, I will write them and hopefully they will be able to read English. The members that came on the boat were Vincenzo, Angela, Francesca, Benedetto, Maria, Lucia, and Carmela - Father, Mother, 4 sisters and one brother.
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Postby Lagunasuz » 09 Aug 2006, 22:44

I am interested in connecting with relatives and tracing the Piro family. There was a name change in our family and my two sisters and I are trying to trace our fathers side of the family - the Piro side.
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Postby jcsm400 » 10 Aug 2006, 02:19

Hi Suzanne,

First, when writing to Italy, all letters should be in Italian. Here is a link to a form letter to a potentiial relative.

http://www.initaly.com/gene/mem/letter1.htm

Here are links to the available LDS films for Monrealle.
Church records, 1514-1910

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... siastici++

Civil records, 1820-1903

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... siastici++


Locate your nearest LDS-Family History Center.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... et_fhc.asp


A guide to obtaining these films.

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... =2581.html

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Postby jcsm400 » 10 Aug 2006, 02:33

The 1903 ship manifest that you refer to, must be a 2nd trip.

Census records showing 1894, with Maria, Lucy, & Camilla born in LA.

1910 census

http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/2396/piro1910fy8.jpg

1920 census
http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/7536/piro1920yk8.jpg

NOTE: Vincent is a widower, living with daughter, Frances Piro. Frances Piro married a Piro?

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Postby jcsm400 » 10 Aug 2006, 02:38

Death information for Angelina Piro

Piro Angelina Tuminello 48 yrs F W 04/21/1911 Vol#151 Page#1219
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Postby jcsm400 » 10 Aug 2006, 02:48

Birth informationfor Maria Piro.
Surname, Given name, Father, mother, date, Volume, Page

Piro Maria Vincenzo Angela Tomminello 02/15/1898 121 318


For Lucy>

Piro Lucia Vincenzo Angela Tomminello 10/17/1900 121 318
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Postby jcsm400 » 10 Aug 2006, 03:12

1913 New Orleans City Directory
Street
Piro John 2544 Gravier
Piro Vincent 1828 Gravier


And some more information.

SS MONTEBELLO OCTOBER 30 1897 PALERMO TO NEWORLEANS

62 PIRO VINCENZO 36 M SICILY MONREALE
63 TUMMINELLO ANGELA 34 F SICILY MONREALE
64 PIRO FRANCESCA 06 F SICILY MONREALE
65 PIRO BENEDETTO 03 M SICILY MONREALE
66 TUMMINELLO SALVATORE 23 M SICILY MONREALE

So the 1903 trip was at least the 3rd trip back to the US.

Son of Frances (Piro) Piro??>>>>>>

Social Security Death Index Record

Name: Vincent Piro
SSN: 436-09-0643
Born: 18 May 1911
Died: Mar 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: Louisiana (Before 1951 )

Hope this helps.

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Postby Lagunasuz » 10 Aug 2006, 05:51

thank you for your help and I am glad that you hit the same road blocks that I hit but that Piro family could be family but they are not the same, the family I am looking for left on September 1903 on the Massilin
out of Palermo : Vincenzo Piro - 42,Angelina Tumminella -40 spouse, Francesa - 13 daughter, Benedetto - 9 son, Maria - 4 daughter, Lucia - 3 sister - Carmela - daughter I actually have a photo of that family. That is the family I am looking for. I started with the other family and realized I had taken a wrong turn...... several so far.
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Postby jcsm400 » 10 Aug 2006, 08:09

Hi Susanne,

Census ages can be off (these are either right on or off by 1 or 2) & by the time the 1910 was taken, they may have considered Lucy their daughter & not sister to Vincenzo? (BIG age difference....perhaps relationship on manifest was entered incorrectly) Just my opinion, but I think this is the correct family. The LDS films will be able to tell you if there were two different Vincenzo Piro married to two different Angelina (Angela) Tumminella (sp)

Lets see what others have to say, before I delete everything.

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Postby Lagunasuz » 10 Aug 2006, 08:29

so sorry, Lucia is a daughter...... Benedetto, sometimes spelled Benaisto, I believe is my grandfather. Sorry to confuse you, I have confused myself, but so far the dates work.
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Postby jcsm400 » 10 Aug 2006, 08:32

So, this is the correct family & you have all these documents?
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Postby jcsm400 » 10 Aug 2006, 08:40

Do you have your grandfather's WWI Draft Registration Card?

Found two:
In New Orleans, Orleans, LA>>
Benedetto Piro, but born in 1878

In Tangipahoa Co., LA>>
Bennett Anthony Piro b. May 1, 1894
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