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Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby sheronb » 20 Aug 2006, 02:15

Hi,can anyone advise me please?

My great grandfather Guiseppe Tuzio/Tuzzio and his father Amadio came to birmingham,uk in the 1890,s?
I now belive that they are from Sora in lazio, this info was given by a distant cousin and confirmed by an italian researcher.
I cannot really afford to pay a researcher, the fees, to trace them in Sora, can someone tell me, how i can do it myself??
Guiseppe was born 1872c, married in 1899, in birmingham and died in 1943.His father amadio was born 1850c, and died in 1913, both died in birmingham.
any advice would be welcome!!
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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby Emmy » 20 Aug 2006, 03:13

Hi Sheronb
Micro films are available from www.familysearch.org for Sora (Province Frosinone) You can order then at your local Family History Centre. I think it costs £2.50 for each film and you can go there to view them and get all the relevant information, the films stay at your centre for four weeks but you can request to keep them longer if need be. I'll post this just now but I'll go back to Family search and see if I can find your local Centre.
(Excuse the linking of the dates- I've still got my 'L' plates up where linking is concerned)

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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby Emmy » 20 Aug 2006, 03:33

Have been back into Familysearch.org and it says there are no Family History Centres in Birmingham,(Perhaps you dont live there) but if you go into the site and type in your address where it says'find your nearest centre' it should tell you where your nearest centre is.

There is a film that covers the date for Amadio's birth 1850 but not for Giuseppe's in 1872.

Hope this helps
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(ps to all my good friends out there, will you please check just to make sure I havent confused Sheronb)

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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby sheronb » 20 Aug 2006, 13:09

Emmy, thank you for your advice, i am in leicester, and there is afamilyserach centre here, i shall ring them,one more thing, the italian researcher did give a date of birth for Guiseppe, 24th sept 1872, this does tie in with his age on his marriage cert.
Can i write to the relevant authourity in sora, and applie for his birth cert?and any ideal of how much this costs? the researcher did give a first name for his mother,Domenica or mimie?

thank you so much.

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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby Emmy » 20 Aug 2006, 16:33

Hi Sheronb

Glad you found a F H C in your area. I have just written to the commume in Sant'Elia requesting a Birth Act and a Marriage Certificate for my relatives. This is what I did:-

jscm on this site provided me with the address of the commune I needed to write to. I'll try to find the address you need and post it to you.

You dont send any money with the request, (I think by law they have to provide the document but it can take a while to get a reply)

Write the letter in Italian (if you have difficulty with this write it in English and post a request in the ' Translation Forum' here and some kind person will translate it into Italian for you. (Sorry I cant help you with that)

Enclose an Iternational Reply coupon to cover the cost of the return postage - these cost 60p each and you get them at your local 'Post Office.
(I've been told the coupons that all post offices have at the moment are only valid up until December this year and then new ones are being brought out, but dont let that put you off buying one now)

Enclose a copy of your ID card (If you dont have an ID card at work then I think the next best thing to do would be to send a 'passport' size picture with your signature on the back. (I just used my bus pass : :wink: I'm not saying that you are the age to have one of these :) :) )

Enclose a self addressed envelope

The date on the marriage certifcate may or may not be exact but it will definately give you a good guess where to start researching on the films for Amadio's Birth Act.
But do give the information re the age thats on the marriage certificate for Guiseppe when writing to the Commune.

Hope this helps :) :)
Good Luck
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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby Emmy » 20 Aug 2006, 17:16

Sheronb
This is the web site for the comune for Sora, www.comune.sora.fr.it
It gives the option to translate into English. Plenty of email addresses but I just cant seem to find an address to write to.
Maybe you wil have better luck but I'll keep trying to find it for you.
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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby Emmy » 20 Aug 2006, 20:35

The address for the comune is:-

Comune di Sora
Corso Volsci 111
03039
Sora (FR)
Italy

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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby sheronb » 20 Aug 2006, 22:41

Emmy, sorry i didnt get back to you, the emails went to my junk box, after i had added this site to my safe list.
thank you for these options, i am goung to study them and eventually have a go!!!lol.
i shall be the first in my family to crack these tuzios!!

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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby sheronb » 20 Aug 2006, 22:50

Emmy, its me again, sorry couple more questions!
you say dont include any money, and that by law they must provide the document? does that mean a close relative? as i am only the g,g,granddaughter of amadio Tuzio?
And what should i apply for? amarriage document or birth for amadio?
i did see a site online, that provided a letter.requesting a document, that was already in italian, and they showed you where to put your info?
Sorry to sound so dim!!!

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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby Emmy » 20 Aug 2006, 22:50

Glad to be of some help
Please let the forum know if you have any success. Just dont give up, even if, at first, you dont have success. :) :)
Good Luck with your search
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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby sheronb » 20 Aug 2006, 23:38

Hi Emmy, i cant see where to change that sora site to english!! :(

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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby Emmy » 20 Aug 2006, 23:49

Hi Sheronb
If you can find Armadio's birth act on the micro films at the FHC. it may have information at the bottom of the document giving the date of the marriage and the name of the person he married. (You would then be able to get that information from the micofilms as well)

If you found that information first, I think then you would have more information to give to the comune when requesting a copy of the actual certificates.

(The probem I had was I couldnt get a print out of the birth act I found on the film at the FHC so I tried tracing the birth act and then I tried taking a photograph with my digital camera (with the flash turned off). From that friends on this forum were a great help to me translating the document. It was only after I had the information from the birth act that I have sent off for the marriage certifcate.)

But you can write for Giuseppe's birth certificate now because you have the year he was born and there is no microfilm available for his year of birth.

As for being the g.g.granddaughter, Armadio and Giuseppe are 'blood relations' so in my opinion, I feel that's all that matters.

Dont think yourself dim, if you dont ask you'll never find out, you should read some of the questions I have put to the members on this forum :roll: - and they are still helping me yet --- I hope :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I had a link for these letters too and I think they would be ok but dont use the 'Google' translation it just comes up 'gobbledigook'.

I dont know if I'll manage to do this or not but I'll try to post you a copy of my grandfather's birth act which was in the 1850's and it will give you an idea what the birth act looks like.
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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby sheronb » 20 Aug 2006, 23:55

Thank you Emmy, that would be great to see the birth document!! thank you.

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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby Emmy » 21 Aug 2006, 00:04

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This birth act is 1853 and at the bottom of the 2nd column are the details about the marriage.

So if you find information on the films and you cant understand what it says take a picture of it and post it here and someone will help translate it for you.

(click on the picture to enlarge it, it takes a minute or so to downlaod)
Hope this helps
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Re: Tuzio/tuzzio from sora,Lazio

Postby sheronb » 21 Aug 2006, 00:13

Hi Emmy, thanks for that, but so hard to read, but wont let that defeat me!!lol
when i first found Guiseppe on 1901 cesus, couldnt read a thing, but you learn!!!

right!!Ive done a letter and got it translated, what do you think?
and is it essential to send id? we dont have id cards here, would a signed photo be enough??


Ciao, Il mio nome è...................... e sto cercando la nascita di guiseppe Tuzio, che era sopportato io crede settembre del 1872, in sora, o un sobborgo del sora. Il suo padre era 1850c sopportato Amadio, entrambi spostato in Inghilterra, a Birmingham. Guiseppe è stato sposato a 1899, Birmingham ed è morto in 1943, amadio morto in 1913, entrambi a Birmingham. sarei riconoscente per tutte le informazioni sulla nascita di Gusieppes il vostro


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