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Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby pjmatelli » 21 Aug 2006, 11:00

Hello all...am new to the forum and trying to establish/create a family line. Am looking for information regarding the Edoardo Matelli family who immigrated to the US via Ellis Island I think in the early 1920's. I believe the original family is from Lucca???

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby mfjp » 21 Aug 2006, 11:40

Welcome to the forum...

There's this ships record... but the time frame is only short by about 15 years...

Can you provide a year of birth?

This is an Ellis Island mis-linked manifest...

If this manifest is of interest.. please let me know as I can do a page by page search....

First Name: Edvuardo
Last Name: Matelli
Ethnicity: Italian, (North)
Last Place of Residence: Bourga
Date of Arrival: Nov 05, 1904
Age at Arrival: 32y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: La Touraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0019

Travels with...

0015. Barfolmei, Francesco M 23y S Italian, (North) Lucca
0016. Casali, Giuseppe M 20y S Italian, (North) Lucca
0017. Dalli, Aniseto M 45y M Italian, (North) Lucca
0018. Del Bene, Aristoduow Ginliv M 29y S Italian, (North) Fuimalbo
0019. Matelli, Edvuardo M 32y M Italian, (North) Bourga

The city could be Borgo a Mozzano: Tuscany Region (Toscana), Lucca province...

http://en.comuni-italiani.it/046/004/

or the other Borgo ....

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby pjmatelli » 21 Aug 2006, 11:47

Thank you so much for the quick response...it's late here and I'll double-check the DOB in the am...I'll let you know...Thanks again!

Paula

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby pjmatelli » 21 Aug 2006, 12:12

Maria,
Thanks again----did a little more searching myself. I was able to find what you found. Interestingly enough when I checked www.wallofhonor.com it shows me The Edoardo Matelli Family, so I'm not sure why it's different on the ellisisland.org site? Any thoughts? I'm still checking into the DOB!

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby mfjp » 21 Aug 2006, 13:14

pjmatelli wrote:Maria,
Thanks again----did a little more searching myself. I was able to find what you found. Interestingly enough when I checked www.wallofhonor.com it shows me The Edoardo Matelli Family, so I'm not sure why it's different on the ellisisland.org site? Any thoughts? I'm still checking into the DOB!

Paula


Hi Paula...

To heck with calling it a night... eh?

"The Edoardo Matelli Family Italy Panel 620"...

So I guess who ever made a donation to the Statue of Liberty... foundation submitted the correct name...

The ellisisland. org transcriptions of the manifests are just terrible... makes research a nightmare at times...

I will search for the manifest and re-create a new link.

Can you give us some more info... name of wife, children... where settled in the USA...

The manifest I posted earlier had him travelling with adults.... his wife and children if any, should appear on another manifest somewhere...

We've got a great team here who can dig up anything...

Keep us updated...

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby mfjp » 21 Aug 2006, 13:36

The name Eduardo also appears on the second page...

Link to Eduardo's wife and child (possible manifest)

Link to Page 2

Angela Matelli's father in Italy is Stefano Puccini....

Angela's husband in the USA is Eduardo.. 1037 Oak Street, San Fran, CA

First Name: Angela
Last Name: Matelli
Ethnicity: Italy Italian N.
Last Place of Residence: Coreglia, Italy
Date of Arrival: May 23, 1908
Age at Arrival: 28y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: La Savoie
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0004

First Name: Paolino
Last Name: Matelli
Ethnicity: Italy Italian N.
Last Place of Residence: Coreglia, Italy
Date of Arrival: May 23, 1908
Age at Arrival: 5y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: La Savoie
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0005

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby mfjp » 21 Aug 2006, 20:26

mfjp wrote:This is an Ellis Island mis-linked manifest...

First Name: Edvuardo
Last Name: Matelli
Ethnicity: Italian, (North)
Last Place of Residence: Bourga
Date of Arrival: Nov 05, 1904
Age at Arrival: 32y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: La Touraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0019

Travels with...

0015. Barfolmei, Francesco M 23y S Italian, (North) Lucca
0016. Casali, Giuseppe M 20y S Italian, (North) Lucca
0017. Dalli, Aniseto M 45y M Italian, (North) Lucca
0018. Del Bene, Aristoduow Ginliv M 29y S Italian, (North) Fuimalbo
0019. Matelli, Edvuardo M 32y M Italian, (North) Bourga

The city could be Borgo a Mozzano: Tuscany Region (Toscana), Lucca province...

Maria


Here's a new link for the manifest... looks like this was his first voyage over.

Link to Eduardo Matelli Manifest 1904

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby pjmatelli » 21 Aug 2006, 21:56

omigosh! Thanks Maria...This is so fascinating.
I spoke with my father this morning and the information you have is what I was looking for. His father was Paolino - the 5 year old that came with Angela.

There are family 'stories' that say the Matellis came from Ghivizano(sp?) and the Puccini's came from Dechimo(sp?). Is there a chance we can confirm this?

I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your efforts!

Paula

BTW, I was named after that little 5yr old boy!!!

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby jcsm400 » 22 Aug 2006, 02:22

Maria,

Could this be the town of birth shown on the manifest for Angela & Paolino?

Ghivizzano - comune: Coreglia Antelminelli - province: Lucca - region: Toscana

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby mfjp » 22 Aug 2006, 02:46

Hi Joyce,

I'm sure it is!

I think the other one is Decimo (pronounced just as Paula wrote)

Link to Decimo city info

as for Chivizzano info can be found through this Link to Coreglia Antelminelli

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Hi Paula, nice to hear back from you...

Really glad to see that you were named after your Grandfather... any Stefano's in the family?

There are family 'stories' that say the Matellis came from Ghivizano(sp?) and the Puccini's came from Dechimo(sp?). Is there a chance we can confirm this?


We can certainly take a look...

Now that you've confirmed who your grandparents are, we can search a little further...

We've got a really nice group of members here at the forum... Joyce (jcsm) being one of them... :P

Maria :P

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby pjmatelli » 22 Aug 2006, 03:03

Thank you, thank you, thank you....My father delivered quite a bit of written material to me today with more 'stories' from family members...am currently rifling through it all. Once I get some specific information, I'll need some help confirming.

BTW, no Stefano's, but a few Stephen's (American version I guess????)

Thanks again and I look forward to continuing with my quest!

Paula

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby jcsm400 » 22 Aug 2006, 08:02

Thanks, Maria! We do have nice members.


Hi Paula,

Know you're busy reading the family stories, but when you're done here are some records.

1910 United States Federal Census Record

Name: Paolo Matello
Age in 1910: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Edwardo
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Name: Angela
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: San Francisco Assembly District 39, San Francisco, California
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1908
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edwardo Matello 39
Angela Matello 31
Paolo Matello 8
Giorgio Matello 1
Uno Pennini 21

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5056 ... 920uk3.jpg


1920 United States Federal Census Record
about Paul Matella
Name: Paul Matella
[Paul Martella]
Home in 1920: San Francisco Assembly District 27, San Francisco, California
Age: 17 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's name: Edeba
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's name: Amela
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of immigration: un
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 565
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edeba Matella 46
Amela Matella 39
Paul Matella 17
George Matella 10
Irma Matella 3
George Pucun 28
Adam Bonini 20
Julius Bonini 32
Tony Lovani 30

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/ ... I19202.jpg



1930 United States Federal Census Record
about Edward Matelli
Name: Edward Matelli
Home in 1930: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Angela
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent Home Value:

Age at First Marriage:

Parents' Birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Matelli 57
Angela Matelli 50
George Matelli 20
Irina Matelli 13
Paul Mea 53
Edward Guastucci 33
Leo Paldino 28

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/ ... IE1930.jpg


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Postby jcsm400 » 22 Aug 2006, 08:50

And a possible 1930 census for Paul Matelli.

Indexed as Purl J. Matelli

1930 United States Federal Census Record
about Purl J Matelli
Name: Purl J Matelli
Home in 1930: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Alice K
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent Home Value:

Age at First Marriage:

Parents' Birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Purl J Matelli 27
Alice K Matelli 18

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/ ... IP1930.jpg



California Death Index, 1940-1997 Record

Name: MATELLI, PAUL J
Social Security #: 556162760
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 10 Oct 1902
BirthPlace: ITALY
Death Date: 11 Apr 1961
Death Place: SAN FRANCISCO
Mother's Maiden Name: PUCCINI


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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby pjmatelli » 22 Aug 2006, 09:59

Thanks - you guys are my new best friends. I truly can't thank you enough and I look forward to going through all the material and producing a very accurate document.

Again, thank you!

Paula

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Re: Looking for Matelli/Puccini

Postby jcsm400 » 22 Aug 2006, 10:37

Hi Paula,

The LDS Church has filmed the civil records (birth, marriage & death acts) for the town of Coreglia Anteiminelli, including the hamlet of Ghivizzano.
Here is a link to the available films.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... o+civile++

You can order/rent (abt. $5.50/5.75 per month) these films at your local LDS-Family History Center. Link to local your nearest FHC.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... et_fhc.asp

A link to a guide on ordering the above films.

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... =2581.html

And lastly, this Italian to English genealogical word list may come in handy.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... Italia.ASP

Hope this helps & good luck in your research. Let us know if you need anything & keep us posted on your prgress.

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