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Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby cerg » 23 Aug 2006, 04:47

Hello Everyone,

In the process of waiting for all my information back on Giovanni (John) Cergnul... :) I am going ahead with his wife's side of the father. I am looking for information on the following:

Cesar Maragni he was born in Montua, Italy , I don't know what year. He married Martha Ochmann who was born in West Fahlen, Germany born on Sept. 1, 1881. They had three children that I know of named Adele (Dolly) Marangi born Sept. 3, 1905 in Clinton , Indiana. She was married to Giovanni (John) Cergnul, I have their married date but not handy I believe it was 1918.

Their was also two sons named Pete Marangi and Ceasar Maragni. I believe that they stayed around the Indiana/Illinios area.

I would like to find out more information on the Cesar Marangi like when or if he came the US, when he died and where he lived. Martha Ochmann Maragni, I would like to know when she came here also and where she lived. I do know that she was naturalized on Dec. 9, 1938 in Benton Illinois and lived in Sesser Illinois. I do not know if they had any other children then what is mentioned above.

Thank you guys for the help! Hope to hear from you soon.... :D

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby mfjp » 23 Aug 2006, 04:57

MANTUA or Montua?

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby cerg » 23 Aug 2006, 05:05

Hey Maria,

On the paper that I have it looks like it says Montua Italy. Thanks for the quick reply!!

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby mfjp » 23 Aug 2006, 05:13

Hi Kristina,

Please do a google search on Montua... then....do a google search of Mantua.

First Name: Cesare
Last Name: Maragin
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: S. Martino
Date of Arrival: Nov 01, 1902
Age at Arrival: 29y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Citta di Milano
Port of Departure: Genova
Manifest Line Number: 0019

Found this mis linked manifest... cannot look it up for you because this roll is inaccessible... :cry:

Series Roll Volume Year Month Day Frame Ship Port FHL roll
1 T715 306 529 1902 November 2-5 ? Citta di Milano (inaccessible) ? 1404056

... only his surname is slightly different.. and from the town of S. Martino...

Just wondering if it is the town of San Martino d'Albona... sound familiar??

If this manifest is of interest... the film can be ordered at the Family History Center...

FHL # 1404056 and you could find his manifest there...

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further edit...

Should include the passengers !!

0019. Maragin, Cesare M 29y M Italian S. Martino
0020. Maragin, Marta F 20y M Italian S. Martino
0021. Maragin, Maria F 1y 6m S Italian S. Martino
0022. Maragin, Vittorio M 6m S Italian S. Martino

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby vj » 23 Aug 2006, 05:27

Hi guys! vj :wink:

Martha Ochmann MARANGI
possible 1930 US Census
1930 maragni census

Name: Martha Maragni
Home in 1930: Goode, Franklin, Illinois
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
BirthPlace: Germany
(note: immig 1903?)
Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law

Name: Ceaser Maragni
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
(note: b in Colorado)
Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law

Name: Eugeino Casatta
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
BirthPlace: Austria
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Mary

Name: Mary Casatta
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
(note: b in Germany, immig 1903?)
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Mother's Name: Martha
Spouses's Name: Eugeino

Name: Raymond Casatta
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1917
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Eugeino
Mother's Name: Mary

Name: Catherine Casatta
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1919
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Eugeino
Mother's Name: Mary

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby cerg » 23 Aug 2006, 05:32

Hey Maria,

I did the google search, The name of the town must be Mantua. The spelling Montua must be a typing error.... :)


I will have to call the family history center and see if I can get the film, Thanks!

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby cerg » 23 Aug 2006, 05:43

Thanks Maria and vj,

I wonder where her husband (Cesar) was in 1930? That Ceaser is her son. Martha was living with her daughter Mary and her family, so there was more children than what I thought...

I really want to see that Manifest that has to be Cesar that I am looking for. Thank you guys!!!

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby vj » 23 Aug 2006, 05:58

Cesar MARANGI
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1910 maragni census

Name: Chess Mergner
Age in 1910: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouses's Name: Martha
Home in 1910: Pictou, Huerfano, Colorado
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1902

Name: Martha Mergner
Age in 1910: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
BirthPlace: Germany
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Germany
Mother's Birth Place: Germany
Spouses's Name: Chess
Year of Immigration: 1902

Name: Mary Mergner
Age in 1910: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
BirthPlace: Germany
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Year of Immigration: 1902

Name: Victor Mergner
Age in 1910: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
BirthPlace: Michigan
Relation to Head of House: Son

Name: Adelia Mergner
Age in 1910: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
BirthPlace: Indiana
Relation to Head of House: Daughter

Name: Peter Mergner
Age in 1910: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
BirthPlace: Colorado
Relation to Head of House: Son

Name: Silvia Mergner
Age in 1910: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
BirthPlace: Colorado
Relation to Head of House: Son

Name: Frank Schmann (Ochmann?)
Age in 1910: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
BirthPlace: Germany
Relation to Head of House: Boarder

Name: Alexander Novelini
Age in 1910: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Boarder

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby cerg » 23 Aug 2006, 06:17

vj,

Thank you that was wonderful information!! If it will help I forgit to tell you Martha's parents names. They were Alvis Ochmann and Manio Sobyaski. Martha died on Feb. 4, 1968 in Anna Illinois, and was buried in Sesser Illinois.

I will review the information that you posted for me now.

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby vj » 23 Aug 2006, 06:30

one more census, vj :wink:

Martha Ochmann MARANGI
possible 1920 US Census
1920 maragni census

Name: Martha Mangina
Home in 1920: Goode, Franklin, Illinois
Age: 38 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
BirthPlace: Germany
Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law
Father's Birth Place: Germany
Mother's Birth Place: Germany
Marital status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of immigration: un
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Name: Pete Mangina
Age: 13 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
BirthPlace: Colorado
Relation to Head of House: Stepson (??)
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's name: Mary
Mother's Birth Place: Germany

Name: Searlro Mangina
Age: 11 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909
BirthPlace: Colorado
Relation to Head of House: Son (??)
Father's name: Eugene
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's name: Mary
Mother's Birth Place: Germany

Name: Claren Mangina
Age: 8 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1912
BirthPlace: Colorado
Relation to Head of House: Son (??)
Father's name: Eugene
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's name: Mary
Mother's Birth Place: Germany

Name: Eugene Ceasatta
Age: 30 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Mary
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of immigration: 1913
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Name: Mary Ceasatta
Age: 19 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
BirthPlace: Germany
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouses's Name: Eugene
Father's Birth Place: Germany (??)
Mother's name: Martha
Mother's Birth Place: Germany

Name: Raymond Ceasatta
Age: 3 years 3 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1916
BirthPlace: Missouri
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's name: Eugene
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's name: Mary
Mother's Birth Place: Germany

Name: Catherine Ceasatta
Age: 1 year 4 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1918
BirthPlace: Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's name: Eugene
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's name: Mary
Mother's Birth Place: Germany

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby cerg » 23 Aug 2006, 06:45

Thank you so much !!

I am going to go review the information you and Maria have posted I will check in a little later.



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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby vj » 23 Aug 2006, 10:29

Martha Ochmann MARAGNI
brother Frank possible manifest

SS Kaiser Wilhelm Der Grosse, 1 Feb 1910, Bremen to NY
Franc OCHMANN, 22 (abt 1888), miner
father in Weitmar Germany, Alois? Ochmann
joining b-i-l Ceasar Maragni in Walsenburg (Huerfano) Colorado
born in Weitmar, Germany
page 1 http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_wei ... &line=0029
page 2 http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_wei ... &line=0029

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby cerg » 23 Aug 2006, 16:34

Hello,

Thank you for SO much information! This family is sure not as hard to track now as the Cergnul's!!

I believe that all the manifests are of family members this is a very good find, thank you Vj and thank you Maria!!

I will be on here for a little while this morning then it's off to the eye doctor with my oldest son..

If you have any questions let me know and I will be going over all this wonderful information and piecing it together so I am sure I will have more questions for you guys as well!!

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby BMaragni » 31 Aug 2006, 08:33

Kristina,

We must be related. I am Cesar Maragni's great-grandson. My great-grandfather died in 1911 just a few months after my Grandpa, Ceasar, was born. My Dad, who pointed me to this website, is also named Ceasar and will be in contact with you soon to help fill in some blanks for you. Thanks for doing this search as it is fascinating to see the name of the ship he and Martha came over on, along with precise dates!

Sincerely,
Brett Maragni

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Re: Maragni / Ochmann Help Please

Postby BMaragni » 31 Aug 2006, 08:57

I was just in St. Louis a few weeks ago with my Dad and our cousins, looking up the old homes where they lived when they were little. Martha, Pete, Dolly, and Ceasar all lived in St. Louis at the same time. We had our picture taken in front of John and Dolly Cergnul's three story house.

Dad and I also went by the cemetery in Sesser to go by the family graves that are there. Here's some info on the family.

Cesar Maragni is buried in Centralia, IL. He died in 1911 of pneumonia. They were living in Rend City at the time and there was no cemetery there, so they buried him in Centralia.
Martha died in the 1960s and is buried in Sesser, IL.
Their children:
Mary died in the late 1960s or early 70s and is buried in Sesser, IL.
Silvio died as a young man (early 20s?) and is buried in Sesser, IL.
Dolly lived in Christopher, IL, died in 1991 or 92 and is buried in Sesser, IL.
Victor lived in Benton, IL, died in the late 1980s or early 1990s and is buried in Benton, IL.
Pete lived in West Frankfort, IL, died in the late 1990s and is buried in West Frankfort.
Ceasar lived in Waltonville, IL, died in 1994 and is buried in Sesser, IL.
Also buried in Sesser are Martha's parents: Alois Ochmann and his wife.


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