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Cheroti Heritage

Postby Cheroti101 » 27 Aug 2006, 16:18

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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: Cheroti heritage

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My family name is Cheroti but my grandfather was killed in jail and so my best link is his brother my great uncle and he says that are name used to be cerrutti but it was changed or something my family is from chicago though and he is actually in italy right know. My uncle says that we are from a town called piano in campania near Napoli and Salerno. Anyone that has any information of what might have happened or anything else tell me thx.

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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage

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Hello, the town is PIANO DI SORRENTO,
and this is the email of comune

info @ pianodisorrento.net

where to ask for civil records

There are not Cheroti at all in Italy, but Cerruti in Napoli area

www.paginebianche.it/p...A&x=42&y=7

I hope it helps, bye ricbru
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage

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Cheroti101 wrote:
My family name is Cheroti but my grandfather was killed in jail and so my best link is his brother my great uncle and he says that are name used to be cerrutti but it was changed or something my family is from chicago though and he is actually in italy right know. My uncle says that we are from a town called piano in campania near Napoli and Salerno. Anyone that has any information of what might have happened or anything else tell me thx.
hi, Cerruti is tipical of Italy north, no south ... if you write some other detail, as first name is better for help you.. also are various Piano or Piana in Campania province, all hamleth, with exception of Piano di Sorrento near Napoli and Salerno.... the surname spelling could be CERRATO very common in this area... also are alternate spelling CERRUTO.
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ops ric :
abbiamo risposto insieme, sorry, suanj
we have replied both.. sorry, suanj
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage

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What are your research goals? What have you located so far? Providing more detail will help forum members help you.......names, dates, ages, children and known locations.
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I am sure that it is the town piano di sorrento, I have to ask my uncle about his grandparents and what were their names because it has my grandparents death records but goes nothing beyond that about any of their parents. I just want to know why it changed from Cerruti to what it is know.

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you can say us the first name of your ancestor?
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Cheroti heritage

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My great grandfathers name was peter cheroti, and my grapfathers name was Robert Cheroti and My Uncles name is Peter Cheroti jr. but which name is more common in the napoli area, cerrutti or cerruti?

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Postby wldspirit » 27 Aug 2006, 21:37

Cerruti is the more common spelling, to see for yourself,
place the surname in cognome on the left of the screen and click on the arrow at the following site, http://www.gens.labo.net/
it will show the distribution of the surname on a map of Italy......
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Postby wldspirit » 27 Aug 2006, 21:41

Only one record came up with the correct spelling of Cheroti:

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Record
about Peter J Cheroti
Name: Peter J Cheroti
Birth Year: 1912
Race: White, citizen
Nativity State or Country: Illinois
State: Illinois
County or City: Cook

Enlistment Date: 10 Mar 1942
Enlistment State: Illinois
Enlistment City: Camp Grant
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: 2 years of college
Civil Occupation: Photographer, Aerial or Accountant or Auditor
Marital Status: Divorced, with dependents
Height: 67
Weight: 161

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Re: Cheroti Heritage

Postby Cheroti101 » 28 Aug 2006, 02:31

Yeah that is him, my family is from chicago. I just dont know the name of his parents. If I had those maybe i could trace more back. So cerruti is probably what it was?

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Postby wldspirit » 28 Aug 2006, 02:50

Need to place the family on a census, which will provide naturalization info and immigration info.......locating a ship manifest may provide other relatives names.......

Can you provide the names of the other children in the family, besides Peter Jr. and also the wife's name?

As for the name, that is based on the spelling you provided....need to check the spelling provided by Suanj as well....along with a manifest!!



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Postby Cheroti101 » 28 Aug 2006, 03:20

The wifes name is Madeline Cheroti and the other son is Robert and the daughter is Mary

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Re: Cheroti Heritage

Postby nuccia » 28 Aug 2006, 05:45

Hi Cheroti101..

I merged your 2 topics...please, try and keep all the info contained to one. Its too difficult to follow otherwise.

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Postby jcsm400 » 28 Aug 2006, 09:03

Cheroti101 wrote:Yeah that is him, my family is from chicago. I just dont know the name of his parents. If I had those maybe i could trace more back. So cerruti is probably what it was?


Social Security Death Index

PETER J CHEROTI 08 Jan 1912 Apr 1994 94578 (San Leandro, Alameda, CA) (none specified) 359-03-9447 Illinois


If filled out correctly, his ss application will provide parents' names. Here is a form letter to request the application


http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.c ... amesiffix=

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California Death Index, 1940-1997 Record
about PETER JOSEPH CHEROTI
Name: CHEROTI, PETER JOSEPH
Social Security #: 359039447
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1912
BirthPlace: ILLINOIS
Death Date: 19 Apr 1994
Death Place: ALAMEDA
Mother's Maiden Name: MALONE
Father's Surname:

California Death Index, 1940-1997 Record
about ROBERT L CHEROTI
Name: CHEROTI, ROBERT L
Social Security #: 549644075
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 17 Sep 1947
BirthPlace: ILLINOIS
Death Date: 27 Mar 1973
Death Place: MARIN
Mother's Maiden Name:
Father's Surname:

Can you confirm the above two records and the relationship between the two?
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Re: Cheroti Heritage

Postby wldspirit » 28 Aug 2006, 09:33

Sorry bout that.....one of which is duplicate info...something is missing here but can't quite put my finger on it.....lack of sleep..... :?
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Re: Cheroti Heritage

Postby Cheroti101 » 28 Aug 2006, 12:41

Those records are true because robert my grandfather died back then and everything and my great grandfather died in that area.

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Re: Cheroti Heritage

Postby wldspirit » 28 Aug 2006, 13:18

Given the limited info and input.......based on these records.....file for a birth certificate for family members that you know of, and death certificates...skip the Soc Sec app for now.......the birth/death certificates will provide the info you need to work your way backwards.......

also here is a handy outline for genealogy research......
http://www.graonline.com/cgi-bin/gra/do ... gratrailer



name: CHEROTI, MADELINE AGNES
death: 3 Jan 1989
Place:ALAMEDA
sex; FEMALE
birth; 6 Nov 1916
birth place: NEBRASKA
mothers maiden name: JENZEN

name: CHEROTI, PETER JOSEPH
death: 19 Apr 1994
Place: ALAMEDA
sex: MALE
birth: 8 Jan 1912
place: ILLINOIS
mothers maiden name: MALONE

name: CHEROTI, ROBERT L
death: 27 Mar 1973
Place: MARIN
sex: MALE
birth: 17 Sep 1947
place: ILLINOIS

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Re: Cheroti Heritage

Postby Cheroti101 » 30 Aug 2006, 08:08

Sorry for the limited input i work full time. I still dont know what the name was before cheroti. Thank you I am just pretty tired because i do manual labor .

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Postby jcsm400 » 30 Aug 2006, 08:27

Sorry, can't answer your question.....Perhaps by tracing the family or talking to other family members, you'll get the answer.

Here is some possiblities as to what the name could have been.

http://stevemorse.org/goulnik/match1.ph ... &dwpdone=1

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Re: Cheroti Heritage

Postby wldspirit » 30 Aug 2006, 09:25

By input I mean to say we need further details, as much as you can provide:

full names
spouse name
birthdates
childrens names
birthdates
where can we expect to find them and when.

We need to start with Peter and work backwards if we are to discover his parents, immigration and naturalization, both of which may turn up the ORIGINAL surname......

Peter was born in Chicago in 1912.....when did he move to California?
Did he have brothers or sisters? Do you know the names of the parents?
Your grandfather was killed in jail.......his name? His brothers name? His wifes name?
Did Peters mother remarry?.........By providing this info we can find and identify the family thru source records......without it, we are but guessing.

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