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Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby virginiaduff » 03 Sep 2006, 16:05

My great grandparents Luigi Barbetti and Virginia Cortopassi were married upon her arrival in New York City at Ellis Island Apr 11 1907. I am seeking more information regarding their descendents or ancestors. Their mothers maiden names are Tamer and Valentini. Luigi Barbetti is from Lucca and Virginia Cortopassi is from Capella, Any help would be appreciated

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby nuccia » 03 Sep 2006, 18:03

Is this the family you are refering to?

1910 United States Federal Census Record
about Louis Barbetti
Name: Louis Barbetti
Age in 1910: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouses's Name: Virginia
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 9, New York, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1909
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Louis Barbetti 28
Virginia Barbetti 25
Josephine Barbetti 1 6/12
Athony Barbetti 1 2/12

1910 Census

According to the census they came to the US with Josephine since it states she was born in Italy..and that they arrived in 1909.

Will need to confirm that info.

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Postby nuccia » 03 Sep 2006, 18:10

Heres the family in the 1920 Census..

1920 United States Federal Census Record
about Louis Barbetti
Name: Louis Barbetti
Home in 1920: Bronx Assembly District 1, Bronx, New York
Age: 40 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Virginia
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1905
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 729
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Household Members:
Name Age
Louis Barbetti 40
Virginia Barbetti 35
Josephine Barbetti 12
Adel Barbetti 6
Philip Termine 32
Anna Termine 34
Angelin Termine 7

Shows slightly different info..says they arrived in 1905 and that Josephine was born in NY. Antony unfortunately is not on the census... :( but they have another daughter. Louis is still in the Ice Cream business..1910 census says he was a driver.

1920 Census

Still searching for manifest and additional info..

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby nuccia » 03 Sep 2006, 18:16

Could this be Virginia's ship manifest?

First Name: Virginia
Last Name: Cortopassi
Ethnicity: North Italian
Last Place of Residence: Capella
Date of Arrival: Apr 11, 1907
Age at Arrival: 23y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Lombardia
Port of Departure: Genoa
Manifest Line Number: 0012

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 1933030252

Travelling with 2 members of the Barbetti family..

0013. Barbetti, Narcito M 16y S North Italian Gugliano
0014. Barbetti, Lorenzina F 24y S North Italian Gugliano

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby nuccia » 03 Sep 2006, 18:24

According to some of the records I located on Narciso mentioned soming over with Virgina) some of the Barbetti family moved to California by 1920.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record
about Narciso Barbetti
Name: Narciso Barbetti
City: San Francisco
County: San Francisco
State: California
BirthPlace: Italy
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1891
Race: Caucasian
Roll: 1544245
DraftBoard: 11


Social Security Death Index Record
about Narciso Barbetti
Name: Narciso Barbetti
SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx
Last Residence: 94066 San Bruno, San Mateo, California, United States of America
Born: 20 Jan 1891
Died: Jun 1972
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951 )

Well I need to give the kids breakfast so I'll check back later and see if this helped you at all.

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby virginiaduff » 03 Sep 2006, 18:39

That is fantastic! Yes It looks like alot of that seems correct! I can't thank you enough for this. It never occured to me that Luigi would have americanized his name to Louis since he never used that name to any of our knowledge. But My maternal grandmother is named Josephine and her sister was Adele.
The California connection is a great find.. Seems like it could be his brother Birth year corresponds with the Ellis Island Records.
Warm regards,

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby virginiaduff » 03 Sep 2006, 18:56

After reading all that It certainly them with a few inconsistencies. But easy errors to have in census documents. He was proud of his ice cream trade. The old man told many stories of his career in NYC as a fabled driver turned ice cream maverick. Grazie!

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby vj » 04 Sep 2006, 04:28

Luigi Barbetti
possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
ww1 luigi barbetti
Luigi Barbetta (Barbetti)
542 Brook Ave, Bronx
39 yrs old, 20 Oct 1878
non-declarant, citizen of Italy
ice cream store, working for Mozetti
wife Virginia, same address
signed Luigi Barbetti

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby vj » 04 Sep 2006, 05:07

Luigi Barbetti
possible 1930 US Census
1930 luigi barbetti census
Bronx, Bronx, NY
542 East 150th St, rents $31
- Louis Barbette (Barbetti), 50 (1880), widower,
immig 1906 Al, laborer - ice cream factory
- daughter Josephine, 21 (1909) b in NY
- daughter Adella, 17 (1913) b in NY

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby jcsm400 » 04 Sep 2006, 05:07

Possible death information for Virginia.

New York City Death Records, 1891-1948

Barbetti Virginia- age 37 y date of death- Mar 27 1922- Certificate# 2352 place- Bronx

Form to obtain the death certificate.

http://www.italiangen.org/NYC_Death_Form.htm

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby virginiaduff » 04 Sep 2006, 21:35

I found out so much from those links
I found many more relations to Luigi Barbetti
Narcito-B
Lorenzina -S
Steven -B
Pericle -B
Birth and Death info etc...
Thanks so much for all the help!

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby virginiaduff » 04 Sep 2006, 21:36

:D I especially was tickled that on one of the census forms says that a 2 year old could READ and Write!

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby nuccia » 04 Sep 2006, 21:43

virginiaduff wrote::D I especially was tickled that on one of the census forms says that a 2 year old could READ and Write!


Gotta love those census takers! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Barbetti /Cortopassi/Tamer/Valentini

Postby jcsm400 » 05 Sep 2006, 06:14

Possible manifest for Luigi Barbetti.
Note: This one is abt. same age as the Luigi Barbetti in vj's WWI Draft Card.


First Name: Luigi
Last Name: Barbetti
Ethnicity: Italy, North Italian
Last Place of Residence: Lucea
Date of Arrival: Nov 10, 1903
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Sardegna
Port of Departure: Genova
Manifest Line Number: 0012


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