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Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby ceil23 » 09 Sep 2006, 21:20

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I am hoping someone might pick up these names and offer some info..Porrovecchio is my paternal Grandfather, Romano my paternal Grandmother. Giuseppe Porrovecchio age listed as 27, his birth at 1886 Lucia Romano, age32, her birth at 1881, when they arrived in America.

They arrived in America on April 15, 1913, together and I think with one child Jerome, on the ship America out of Palermo. from Monreale Sicily.

I have not found any records as far as cenus records, they settled in New Orleans. La.
My grandfather died I think around 1916, from blood posioning. his younger brother Salvatore came to the states and married my grandmother who was pregnant with their 3rd child, Have no record of his death. The only grandfather I knew growing up was Salvatore.

My plans are to to to the LDS History center to see what info I can find. I do know my grandfather's parents were Jerome Porrovecchio and Saveria Renda... My grandmothers parents I don't know a thing about.

Going by the way the boys were named, I assume her father's name was Ignazio, their first born was named Jerome, my father was named Ignazio, and the last boy named Giuseppe....

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby vj » 09 Sep 2006, 22:38

Giuseppe Porrovecchio
earlier immigration 1906? living with a brother-in-law,
possible 1910 census
Name: Joseph Porrovechio
[Joseph Porrovecchio]
Age in 1910: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1910: New Orleans Ward 9, Orleans, Louisiana
Marital Status: Married
Year of Immigration: 1906
other family members:
Anthony Squatrito??
wife Rosa, children Johanna, Peter, Josephine

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matching? manifest
Guiseppe Porrovecchio
age 21, b 1885-1886
from Moreale
joining b-i-l Squatrito?
1907 porrovecchio manifest
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more on brother-in-law Squatrito from 2001 post on rootsweb
"Antonio Squatrito was born in Palermo, Sicily and married to a Rosalie Vermiglia Porrovecchio in Sicily. In the early 1900's they emigrate to Louisiana"
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/messa ... quatrito/1

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby nuccia » 09 Sep 2006, 22:59

Possible death info for Salvatore..

Social Security Death Index Record
about Salvatore Porrovecchio
Name: Salvatore Porrovecchio
SSN: XXX XXX XXX
Last Residence: 70124 New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana, United States of America
Born: 3 Jan 1895
Died: Jan 1967
State (Year) SSN issued: Louisiana (Before 1951 )

Heres the link to the manifest ceil23 was refering to.

1913 Manifest

Going to Brooklyn but travelling without children

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby brujaojos » 09 Sep 2006, 23:32

Hi There,

Here is the death date for Giuseppe.

New Orleans, Louisiana Death Records Index, 1804-1949
Name: Giuseppe Porrovechio
Age: 30 yrs
Death Date: 29 Aug 1915
Color: W
Page: 348
Volume: 164


Here are some other death dates for you. Don't know if they are related or not.

Name: Jim Porrevechino
Age: 11 yrs
Death Date: 11 Nov 1926
Color: W
Page: 888
Volume: 193
Name: Guiseppa Porrovicchio
Age: 2 mos
Death Date: 07 Mar 1923
Color: W
Page: 1049
Volume: 186

Name: Guiseppa Porrovicchio
Age: 2 mos
Death Date: 07 Mar 1923
Color: W
Page: 1049
Volume: 186

Name: Angelo Porrovecchio
Age: 9 yrs
Death Date: 14 May 1931
Color: W
Page: 961
Volume: 202

Name: Joseph Porrovecchio
Age: 29
Death Date: Sep 1945
Page: 4826
Volume: 221


This looks like the marriage date for Salvatore and Lucia.
Name: Salvatore Porrovecchio
Spouse: Lucia Romano
Age: 25
Age: 30
Gender: M
Marriage Date: 29 Jul 1919
Volume: 42
Page: 849

Here is another marriage of a Porrovecchio. Could be related.
Name: Antonino Porrovecchio
Spouse: Vincenza Coppelo
Age: 31
Age: 19
Gender: M
Marriage Date: 31 Jan 1920
Volume: 43
Page: 750

Also, per the Ellis Island manifest of 1913, it states they left
"Mother" Saveria Rende in Italy. This could be Giuseppe's mother.

I hope this helps,
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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby jcsm400 » 10 Sep 2006, 00:09

Available LDS films for Monreale, Palermo, Italy.

Church records, 1514-1910

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... siastici++

Civil recods, 1820-1903

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... onreale+++
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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby jcsm400 » 10 Sep 2006, 00:09

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby vj » 10 Sep 2006, 00:10

possible census, many similarities
(hard to read)
possible 1930 census

record on ancestry under Joe Perovecho
best guesses:
- Joes?? Perovecho, head and a note: boarder, brother?, lives on farm, 47 (1883), 1st marriage age 20, immig 1915 Al, helper farm
- wife Lucille 45 (1885), 1st marriage age 18, immig 1911 Al
- son Paul 15 (1915)
- son Joseph 14 (1916)
- daughter Vivian 9 (1921)

question? could one of the boys answered the census?
asked their father's name - they said Joe?

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby ceil23 » 10 Sep 2006, 09:07

I'd like to Thank everyone who found info for me, You guys are wonderful....would have taken me years to come up with this info.

Seems strange that my Grandfater made so many trips back and forth from Italy to the states, I really felt the manifest I found of both grandparents in 1913 are them, however I could be wrong. Didn't see any other coming from Mornreale Sicily but them. Guess I will have to look again at Ellis Island and make copy of the 1911 arrival into the states.
I do know the name Squatrito being related to our family, and found out they were either related through marriage or being cousins....had to be through marriage. I did read the message board a few years back and made contact with Pete the author of it..he had a picture of my g- grandparents that he sent to me.....I didn't even know their names until then.
The Salvadore death notice is of the grandfather I knew as being mine until I got older. and it was explained to me.
Had no idea when my Uncle Jerome ( Jim) passed away, do know they did call him Jim, but didn't think it would be listed that way. I had heard that my grandmother lost a baby, but didn't know the sex or the child's name, now I know.

I think Angelo and Antonio were cousins, we do have cousins in New Orleans but didn't see them much.

Yes Sarevia Rende was the Mother of Guiseppe and Salvatore, that I did find out from the Squatrito's...

The census does list my Father Paul( Ignazio) Joseph, and Vivian daughter of Salvadore anad Lucia....I always thought my dad was born in 1914, could be mistaken. he passed away July16, 1989. Have not been able to get his SS info because he passed away in Texas and for some reason its blocked in that state.....which doesn't make sense to me, I was able to get my stepmothers SS info and she died in Texas. My dad was proud of his SS card, he had the orginial one from 1936.
He is buried in the military cemetary in Houston, on his grave marker it list him as Nace Porrovecchio, short for Ignaizo I guess. He was in the Navy during the second world war.

Looking at the marriage date of Lucia and Salvadore as July 29th 1919, their daughter Vivian was born July, 29th 1921....

Again I say THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH....YOU ARE MIRACLE WORKERS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby nuccia » 10 Sep 2006, 15:20

Is this your father?

Texas Death Index, 1903-2000 Record
about Ignatius Porrovecchio
Name: Ignatius Porrovecchio
Death Date: 16 Jul 1988
Death County: Polk
Gender: Male

U.S. Veterans Cemeteries, ca.1800-2004 Record
about Ignatius P Porrovecchio
Name: Ignatius P Porrovecchio
Veteran's Rank: S2C
Branch: US Navy
Last known address: 10410 Veterans Memorial Drive Houston , TX 77038
Birth Date: 29 Nov 1914
Death Date: 16 Jul 1988
Veteran Service Start Date: 31 Dec 1943
Veteran Service End Date: 12 Dec 1944
Interment Date: 18 Jul 1988
Cemetery: Houston National Cemetery
Buried At: Section K Site 1343
Cemetery URL: http://www.cem.va.gov/nchp/houston.htm

U.S. Veterans Cemeteries, ca.1800-2004 Record
about Josephine Marie Porrovecchio
Name: Josephine Marie Porrovecchio
Veteran's Rank: S2C
Branch: US Navy
Relation Name: Ignatius P Porrovecchio
Relationship: Wife
Last known address: 10410 Veterans Memorial Drive Houston , TX 77038
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1923
Death Date: 22 Nov 2001
Interment Date: 29 Nov 2001
Cemetery: Houston National Cemetery
Buried At: Section K Site 1343
Cemetery URL: http://www.cem.va.gov/nchp/houston.htm
Relationship Notes: Wife of Porrovecchio, Ignatius P

Social Security Death Index Record
about Josephine M. Porrovecchio
Name: Josephine M. Porrovecchio
SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx
Last Residence: 77351 Livingston, Polk, Texas, United States of America
Born: 24 Aug 1923
Last Benefit: 77351 Livingston, Polk, Texas, United States of America
Died: 1 Nov 2001
State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951 )

Texas Divorce Index, 1968-2002 Record
about Mary L [Porrovecchio]
Name: Mary L [Porrovecchio]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1942
Age: 29
Spouses's Name: Ignatius P Porrovecchio
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year: abt 1945
Spouse's Age: 26
Divorce Date: 11 May 1971
Marriage Date: 17 Oct 1966
Number of Children: 2
County: Harris

Texas Divorce Index, 1968-2002 Record
about Ignatius P Porrovecchio
Name: Ignatius P Porrovecchio
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1945
Age: 26
Spouses's Name: Mary L [Porrovecchio]
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year: abt 1942
Spouse's Age: 29
Divorce Date: 11 May 1971
Marriage Date: 17 Oct 1966
Number of Children: 2
County: Harris

Texas Marriage Collection, 1814-1909 and 1966-2002 Record
about Mary Lynn Andersen
Name: Mary Lynn Andersen
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 17 Oct 1966
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1941
Age: 25

Spouse: Paul Ignatius Porrovecchio
Spouse Gender: Male
Spouse Est Birth Year: abt 1945
Spouse Age: 21

Marriage County: Harris
Marriage State: Texas

Source: Texas Marriage Index, 1966-2002

Texas Marriage Collection, 1814-1909 and 1966-2002 Record
about Paul Ignatius Porrovecchio
Name: Paul Ignatius Porrovecchio
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 17 Oct 1966
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1945
Age: 21

Spouse: Mary Lynn Andersen
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Est Birth Year: abt 1941
Spouse Age: 25

Marriage County: Harris
Marriage State: Texas

Source: Texas Marriage Index, 1966-2002

About your Paul's SSN..don't feel bad about not finding it. I still have yet to find my great grandfathers although I have the original. I 've looking everywhere for it too and it just might not be online.

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby ceil23 » 10 Sep 2006, 21:41

:P Thank you so much, just wrote and a error occured......lost it

Yes, it is my father's records, he is buried in that cemetary, my step mother is buried with him. The SS records I couldn't find on him, I know he had his card since 1936.

The divorces are those of my brother, married 4 times, this last one took....ha ha ha...

Seems like some of what you posted at the beginning of my post is no longer there, could it have been deleted??? the one where you wrote when Salvatori left his mother, or was it Giuseppe??Saveria Renda.. that I couldn't find, and I didn't make a copy...really upset with myself.

I know I have the wrong manifest on Salvatore coming into the states, the dates and age doesn't jive.....he could have come into the Port Of New Orleans,and by passed Ellis Island...records on Ellis shows one arriving in 1911, at age 18, the town is spelled Marrcale Sicily, could this be a typographical error?? He was born on Jan. 3rd 1886, died 1967 at age 72. I've been trying to get a correct age to when he and my grandmother were married in July of 1919, list him at 25. I do know she was older then he. And if my memory serves me right the stories I heard was he came to the states after my grandfahter died to marry my grandmother to help raise the 3 boys.

I don't know if I have the right manifest on my Lucia Romano, and Giuseppe Porrovecchio either, I have 1913, but that would mean my grandfather had to go back to Sicily to travel with her. unless I have the wrong on.. if you had immigration dates at the begining, they are no longer there....

My grandfathers dates all jive.....born in 1886, arrived at 21 in 1907, died in 1915, at age 29......all correct as far as I can see.

This can be all so confusing !!! :roll:

My page says 1 of 1, but with all you have sent it should be more I would think.......anyway we can check that out???
Again I Thank you gals, :D ceilk23

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby nuccia » 10 Sep 2006, 21:48

I think you're right...one of the postss does seem to have disappeared. :? :evil:

Will check it out and re post if necessary.

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby nuccia » 10 Sep 2006, 21:59

Here it is again..


First Name: Giuseppe
Last Name: Porrovecchio
Ethnicity: Italy, South
Last Place of Residence: Monreale, Palermo
Date of Arrival: Apr 15, 1913
Age at Arrival: 27y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: America
Port of Departure: Palermo
Manifest Line Number: 0002

First Name: Lucia
Last Name: Romano
Ethnicity: Italy, South
Last Place of Residence: Monreale, Palermo
Date of Arrival: Apr 15, 1913
Age at Arrival: 32y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: America
Port of Departure: Palermo
Manifest Line Number: 0003

Page 1 Giuseppe Manifest

Page 2


Hopefully this one stays.

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby brujaojos » 10 Sep 2006, 22:33

Hi Again,

Great work Nuccia and everyone! As we say, "It's teamwork!!":D

On Ellis Island, I found the following people coming from Monreale with the Porrovecchio Surname:

Parrovecchio,Antonina Monreale, Sicily 1920 23 1897
Porrovecchia,Carmela Monreale, Sicily 1921 30 1891
Porrovecchia,Giovanna Monreale, Italy 1911 21 1890
Porrovecchio,Francesco Monreale, Palermo 1909 30 1879
Porrovecchio,Giuseppa Monreale, Sicily 1920 20 1900
Porrovecchio,Giuseppe Monreale, Palermo 1913 27 1886
Porrovecchio,Pietro Monreale, Sicily 1911 28 1883
Porrovecchio,Pietro Monreale, Sicily 1911 28 1883
Porrovecchio,Salvatore Monreale, Sicily 1920 28 1892
Porrovecchio,Salvatore Monreale, Sicily 1911 30 1881
Porrovecchio,Salvatore Monreale, Sicily 1911 30 1881
Porrovecchio,Salvatore Monreale, Sicily 1912 30 1882

Through the New Orleans Port
Name - Date of Arrival - Sex - Port of Departure - Town of Origin - Ship's Name
Guiseppe Porrovecchio 10 Mar 1907 Male Palermo, Italy Morreale Il Piemonte


Through the Philadelphia Port
Name - Date of Arrival - Sex - Port of Departure - Town of Origin - Ship's Name
Giuseppa Porrovecchio 25 Feb 1921 abt 1900 Female Palermo, Italy Sicily Orizaba
Rosaria Porrovecchio 2 Sep 1923 abt 1909 Female Naples, Italy Italy Martha Washington
Salvetore Porrovecchio 2 Sep 1923 abt 1857 Male Naples, Italy Italy Martha Washington
Francesca Vitale 2 Sep 1923 abt 1875 Female Naples, Italy Italy Martha Washington

Through the Boston Port
Name - Date of Arrival - Sex - Port of Departure - Town of Origin - Ship's Name
Rosa Butera porrovecchio 27 Jan 1914 abt 1875 Female Palermo, Italy Caltanis Canopic
Concetta Porrovecchio 9 Feb 1915 abt 1908 Female Palermo, Italy Riesi Cretic
Concetto Porrovecchio 27 Jan 1914 abt 1908 Female Palermo, Italy Caltanis Canopic
Giovanna Porrovecchio 27 Jan 1914 abt 1902 Female Palermo, Italy Caltanis Canopic
Giovanna Porrovecchio 9 Feb 1915 abt 1901 Female Palermo, Italy Riesi Cretic
Rosa Porrovecchio 27 Jan 1914 abt 1903 Female Palermo, Italy Caltanis Canopic
View Record Rosa Porrovecchio 9 Feb 1915 abt 1904 Female Palermo, Italy Riesi Cretic
Vincenzo Porrovecchio 27 Jan 1914 abt 1912 Male Palermo, Italy Caltanis Canopic

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby brujaojos » 10 Sep 2006, 22:36

Hi Again,

Here we go!!! This could be Salvatore's Manifest! It's in the New Orleans Port!

Name: Salvatore Parrivecchio
Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1903
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South)
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ship Name: Manilla
Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana
Friend's Name: Salvatore Cannatella
Last Residence: Italy
National Archives' Series Number: T905_2

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Re: Porrovecchio & Romano from Monreale Italy ( Sicily)

Postby nuccia » 10 Sep 2006, 22:43

It took me 5 times to link your manifest Trish..(imageshack acting up all weekend) but here it is.. :evil:

Salvatore Manifest

Definitely right..teamwork...! :D :D

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