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researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby dlradell » 18 Sep 2006, 22:24

My husband's father's family came to US from Italy around 1902. I have received very limited information on this line of the family. I know the following:

Pasquale Rich dob: 5/25/1886 in Auduni
immigrated to US around 1902
married to Teresa Testa??? dob 1887 died before 1921
children: Clara dob 10/10/1914 in CT
a son born in CT
They lived in Southington Connecticut. I know Pasquale had a nephew named Nicholas Rich who married Anna Radell (my husband's paternal great-aunt). Pasquale may have remarried after Teresa and 2 more children, Molly born in 1921 and John born in 1923.

If anyone has any info it would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby wldspirit » 18 Sep 2006, 23:00

Have you placed the family on a census, ship manifest?? Located any documentation on them? Will see what I can find for confirmation.
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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby wldspirit » 18 Sep 2006, 23:08

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record
about Pasquale Rich
Name: Pasquale Rich
City: Not Stated
County: Hartford
State: Connecticut
Birth Date: 25 May 1886
Race: White
Roll: 1562001
DraftBoard: 2

He list his brother as nearest relative, Thomas Rich. If this is the right person, I can link the actual image for you.
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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby wldspirit » 18 Sep 2006, 23:26

Pasquale's middle name is Antonio, WW 2 registration list place of birth as Auduni, Italy......person who will always know your address as Molly Rich.

Thomas Rich middle initial is M........

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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby dlradell » 18 Sep 2006, 23:53

The only census I can find Pasquale on is 1930 with Mollie and John listed as children but no wife. I have also located his daughter Clara (my husband's grandmother) on the 1930 census living at a school named Home of the Good Shepard in Hartford, CT.

I found a Pasquale Riccetelli on the Roma ship manifest that arrived 12/18/1902 with the age as 16 (which would be right) and that he was married.

I have been able to find his brother Thomas in Southington 1900,1910 & 1920 cenus.

Almost all relatives that we know of are gone and other's don't know much.

Thank you for the draft card info and for any other info.
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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby wldspirit » 18 Sep 2006, 23:56

Will link the draft card now........back in a minute.......
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Here is the link to the WW 1 draft registration:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1043/prkj3.jpg

Link to the WW 2 registration:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1659/pr2vz7.jpg
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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby wldspirit » 19 Sep 2006, 01:16

Have yet to locate Pasquale, did find a few census of interest, but no concrete evidence of Your Pasquale.

However, by 1920 Thomas is listed as widowed, his wife Carmella died between 1910 and 1920 census. He list his immigration as 1891, and is naturalizing by 1896......I would apply for his naturalization as it should list his parents names.

Are you sure that both brothers lost their wives before 1920, or that possibly Pasquale and his brother's wives have been confused?
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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby wldspirit » 19 Sep 2006, 01:32

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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby jcsm400 » 19 Sep 2006, 05:25

Here is the 1930 census for the family.

1930 United States Federal Census Record
about Pasco Rich
Name: Pasco Rich
Home in 1930: Southington, Hartford, Connecticut
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
BirthPlace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent Home Value:

Age at First Marriage:

Parents' Birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Pasco Rich 43
John Rich 6
Mallie Rich 8


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NOTE: 1st name: PASCO
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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby wldspirit » 19 Sep 2006, 05:34

JC.
Checked out that variation as well, I did see a few of interest, but daughter is not Clara.....and nothing concrete to tie together......so would be purely speculation.
have you looked for the manifest? never have liked searching for those......would be interesting to see what info they provide on both brothers.........
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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby mfjp » 19 Sep 2006, 07:24

dlradell wrote: I found a Pasquale Riccetelli on the Roma ship manifest that arrived 12/18/1902 with the age as 16 (which would be right) and that he was married.


Is this the 1902 manifest you speak of??

Is he married or single.... :?:

The manifest tells me that he is single.... :!:

The reliable ( :roll: ) transcriber has him as married... no proof of that on this manifest whatsoever....

This manifest tells me that he is from Gioia Sannitica...

City of Gioia Sannitica: Campania Region - Province of Caserta (CE)

Link to Gioia Sannitica town info

It also tells me that he would be joining his brother Alfonso in Conn.

First Name: Pasquale
Last Name: Riccetelli
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence:
Date of Arrival: Dec 18, 1902
Age at Arrival: 16 y Gender: M Marital Status: M (single...??)
Ship of Travel: Roma
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0028

Link to Pasquale Riccetelli's manifest 1902 at age 16

There are other Pasquale Riccitelli that came over that same year but much older...

1 Riccitelli,Pasquale Banca 1902 44 1858 view view view view view 102759060073
2 Riccitelli,Pasquale Catignano 1902 28 1874 view view view view view 102754180767

Maria :P
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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby jcsm400 » 19 Sep 2006, 09:14

Hi dlradell,

The LDS Church (Mormans) has filmed the civil records (birth, marriage, & death acts) for the town of Gioia Sannitica. They cover the years 1809 through 1929.

Here is a link to the available films.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... o+civile++

You order/rent these films from your nearest LDS-Family History Center.

Locate your FHC.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... et_fhc.asp


A guide on obtaining these films.

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... =2581.html


A handy Italian-English genealogical word list.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... Italia.ASP

If you have any questions or need anything else, please let us know.

Happy hunting.

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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby wldspirit » 19 Sep 2006, 10:08

Hey.......one of the census of interest had an Alfonso.....but I didn't bookmark it nor can I remember what search criteria I used at that point......... :oops:

But I really question that both brothers had wives die before 1920??
If the info being presented is by an elderly relative.......well, we all know memories can fade with time......maybe there was some confusion.


Any luck with the Thomas/Tomasso manifest?

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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby mfjp » 19 Sep 2006, 10:58

Here's the manifest of "substance".... :lol:

Teresa & Pasquale 1910 Manifest...

Page 2

First Name: Teresa (born 1890+-)
Last Name: Riccitelli
Ethnicity: Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Gioia Sanmtic, Italy
Date of Arrival: Oct 26, 1910
Age at Arrival: 20y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Taormina
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0008

First Name: Sasquale (born 1887+-)
Last Name: Riccitelli
Ethnicity: Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Gioia Sanmtic, Italy
Date of Arrival: Oct 26, 1910
Age at Arrival: 23y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Taormina
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0007

Maria :P

Further... Pasquale leaves father Pietro in Italy....

Off to join a brother Domenico !!
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Re: researching Rich (Riccetelli) and Testa surnames

Postby wldspirit » 19 Sep 2006, 11:13

Pasquale was naturalized!!!!! Note the numbers on his manifest line......
great work.

Sending for this paperwork will yield further clues, but you now have fathers name, as well as another brother!!!

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