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PALERMO FAMILIES

Postby pacha » 16 Oct 2006, 14:06

:?: :?: Researching my grandparents: Francesco NICOLINI - 1892-1896, tailor, migrated to USA at about 21-23 yrs. old ( around 1912-1915 ?), from Palermo. Married Rosa SPARACINO, born 1892-1896, migrated to USA around perhaps 2 yrs. old, from Palermo. Marriage was in 1918. Port of departure was Le Havre or possibly Genoa. Their children: Frank Jr., Gloria, Assunta, Josephine (died as young child), and Augusto. Some of the family settled in/around New Orleans, Louisiana. NEED INFO on exact birth city of Francesco and Rosa and their parents names/cities of origin. I do not belong to Ancestry.com so really need help with this. Thank you. :D pacha

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Postby ricbru » 16 Oct 2006, 20:27

Hello Pacha,
if you are not sure about the right place of birth of Francesco Nicolini, and you know he was born somewhere in the province of Palermo, you can write a request in italian, asking for his military record (foglio matricolare) of his draft card (lista di leva) to Archivio di Stato di Palermo.
I hope it helps, bye Riccardo :lol:

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Postby nuccia » 16 Oct 2006, 20:29

Hi Pacha..

We'll see what we can do for you!

Found this Frank..

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record
about Frank Nicolini
Name: Frank Nicolini
City: New Orleans
County: Orleans
State: Louisiana
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1895
Race: Caucasian
Roll: 1684923
DraftBoard: 10

Draft Cards

Still single and born in Palermo...and on Christmas Day!

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Re: PALERMO FAMILIES

Postby ricbru » 16 Oct 2006, 20:38

Hello Pacha,
since Nuccia found for you his U.S. Draft card stating he was born in Palermo, to the Archivio di Stato di Palermo you will find only his Italian draft card and not military record.
All Italian man are drafted around the age of 18-20 years old, even those ones who left for emigration.
So, if the Italian draft card was not, for any reason, lost, destroyed, burn or swapt away from flood, it has to be saved in the Archivio di Stato di Palermo.
The draft card states name, date of birth, place of birth, name of parents and when called up to be drafted. Of course there is written that he didn't show up for his check up to see if he was able for the military service.
I hope it helps, bye Riccardo

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Postby nuccia » 16 Oct 2006, 20:39

Perhaps this is Josephina..

New Orleans, Louisiana Death Records Index, 1804-1949 Record
about Josephina Nicolini
Name: Josephina Nicolini
Age: 19 mos
Death Date: 12 Dec 1920
Color: W
Page: 759
Volume: 180

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Re: PALERMO FAMILIES

Postby nuccia » 16 Oct 2006, 20:41

Great advice riccardo..

I didn't know this! Something to keep in mind for future reference. :D

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Postby nuccia » 16 Oct 2006, 20:44

Could this be Frank..if so, he died rather young.

New Orleans, Louisiana Death Records Index, 1804-1949 Record
about Frank Nicolini
Name: Frank Nicolini
Age: 49
Death Date: Apr 1946
Page: 2628
Volume: 222

This should be the marriage record for Frank and Rose..


Name: Francisco Nicolini
Spouse: Rosa Sparanino
Age: 22
Age: 24
Gender: M
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1918
Volume: 41
Page: 219
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Name: Rosa Sparanino
Spouse: Francisco Nicolini
Age: 24
Age: 22
Gender: F
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1918
Volume: 41
Page: 219
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Postby nuccia » 16 Oct 2006, 20:52

The 1920 Census shows Frank arrived about 1897..

1920 United States Federal Census Record
about Frank Nicolini
Name: Frank Nicolini
Home in 1920: New Orleans Ward 11, Orleans, Louisiana
Age: 23 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rosa
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1915
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 1235
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Nicolini 23
Rosa Nicolini 20
Josephine Nicolini 8/12

1920 Census

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Re: PALERMO FAMILIES

Postby jcsm400 » 16 Oct 2006, 21:08

Nuccia, I'm joining the team.:LOL:




Possible 1930 census

1930 United States Federal Census Record
about Frank Nickolino
Name: Frank Nickolino
Home in 1930: New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rose
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Nickolino 31
Rose Nickolino 29
Santo Nickolino 8
August Nickolino 6


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Re: PALERMO FAMILIES

Postby nuccia » 16 Oct 2006, 21:12

HEY HEY HEY Nonna..

Theres always room...and thanks. It seems to work better when we work together.

Getting a "HELP" call from my hubby now.. :evil:

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Re: PALERMO FAMILIES

Postby jcsm400 » 16 Oct 2006, 22:45

Hi Pacha,

Do you know where Francesco & Rosa married? Have their marriage record? Birth records for their children? Francesco's naturalization record?

Here is the link to the 1930 census information posted above.

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3803 ... 930hq9.jpg

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Re: PALERMO FAMILIES

Postby jcsm400 » 16 Oct 2006, 22:50

Oops!.... Found the marriage information....

New Orleans, Louisiana Marriage Records Index, 1831-1925

Name: Francisco Nicolini
Spouse: Rosa Sparanino
Age: 22
Age: 24
Gender: M
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1918
Volume: 41
Page: 219
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Re: PALERMO FAMILIES

Postby pacha » 17 Oct 2006, 18:49

:D Ciao tutti. Molto grazie for all your help. Frank (Sr.) must have been drafted here in the States. I've checked a coupld of the fed. censuses but still do not have necessary info. on city of birth (in region of Palermo) nor any exact info on Frank and Rosa's parents names and their city of birth.

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Re: PALERMO FAMILIES

Postby jcsm400 » 17 Oct 2006, 19:29

Hi Pacha,

No, census records do not provide town of birth.....You need to obtain all the US documentation that you can for the family in the hope that one of them provides this information (see my post above on "What documentation have you obtained?). These are all records that my have the information. Death records, church records, ship manifest & ss application (if applicable) are also good sources.

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