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cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby daisyboo » 22 Oct 2006, 22:05

hi,
a newbie here, hoping someone out there can help me with info on these familys, from italy but some of them moved to the u.k
any help would be great.
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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby nuccia » 23 Oct 2006, 23:36

daisyboo

If you could provide a bit more information it would help us help you better.

Can you provide first names, place of birth, rough birth years, siblings, spouse (maiden names if known) or parents? Any small details help to narrow the search, otherwise it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Looking forward to hearing from you.
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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby daisyboo » 24 Oct 2006, 00:43

hi

Cura's

Domenico born 1821 in italy i have no idea where, married a woman called Luiga ?

they had

Andea b 1848
Francesco b 1849
Luigi b 1851
Davide b 1852 all in italy


Seghini

Allessandro b 1880 in italy d 1993 in northumberland uk
he married
Maria Antonia Cura b 1886 in london d 1954 northumberland
she is the daughter of Luigi b1851.

Luigi b 1851 Married a woman called Margherita.
they had
Desolina Cura b 1880 italy
Domenico Cura b 1882 italy
Lazzaro Cura b 1884 london
Maria Antonia Cura b 1886 london
Felice Cura b 1893 london
Rosmonda Cura b 1893 london

Bertorelli

the only thing i have here is a name Beniamino he married Rosmonda cura.

Desolina Cura Married in 1897 in london to Luigi Bertani b 1871 d 1945 and buried in northumberland


i am hoping someone can help me get a little further on these people, i can find nothing in any records after months and months of searching.

thanks
Sara

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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby jcsm400 » 27 Oct 2006, 18:09

Hi Sara,

By obtaining UK records for the members of a family, you will obtain additional information on them which will hopefully lead you to town(s) in Italy.


A possibble for Desolina Cura's birth?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983

Name: Dusulina Cura
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Holborn
County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 733

Felice Cura?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983

Name: Felice Cura
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Holborn
County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 639

Rosmonda Cura?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983

Name: Rosmonda Cura
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Holborn
County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 701

Lazzaro Cura?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Lassero Cura
Name: Lassero Cura
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Holborn
County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 713 (click to see others on page)


Marriage of Maria Antonia Cura to Allessandro Seghini?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983

Name: Maria Antonia Cura
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Holborn
County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 1550

Confirms the above marriage to Alessandro.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983

Name: Alessandro Seghini
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Holborn
County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 1550

Luigi Bertani & Desolina?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983

Name: Luigi Bertani
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Holborn
County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 887

Rosmonda Cura's marriage

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983

Name: Rosmonda Cura
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Holborn
County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 1409

Hope this helps.

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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby jcsm400 » 27 Oct 2006, 19:27

1901 census....children are also listed.

Luigi Cura 50 Italy London- Civil Parish: St Andrew & St George-Occupation: Gold & Silver Fish Importer

Margherita Cura 43 Italy London-Civil Parish: St Andrew & St George

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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby Daisymay69 » 30 Mar 2008, 10:34

:roll:
Hi I'm trying to find out how Beniamino Bertorelli and Lazzarro ( who came to London in the early 1900s) were related. Beniamino's son Armando ( my husbands grandpa) used to spend alot of his time at the Charlotte Street restaurant with Lazzarro's sons. I don't know whether they were Armando's cousins or uncles.
Did Beniamino come to London with Lazzarro? This is the same Beniamino who married Rosmonda Cura.

Also Beniamino and Rosmonda - as well as Armando their son, had 2 daughters , Gioconda and I think Anita but I can't find anything on them. Gioconda moved down to the South of England but I know nothing about Anita.

Please help if you can

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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby daddymuzza » 01 Apr 2008, 16:28

I have links to the Bertorellis you speak of, some helpful info posted here

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/562961893qLhKaQ
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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby Daisymay69 » 06 Apr 2008, 08:36

:roll:
Thanks for that info. It's really interesting but I'm non the wiser in terms of lazzarro and Beniamino's relationship. Were they brothers or cousins etc. Could be that I need to look further back perhaps in Italy- Were they on the same ship coming over from Italy? How would I find that out?

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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby daddymuzza » 07 Apr 2008, 17:20

According to other Bertorelli family members listed on genesreunited.co.uk Lazzaros family came to the UK from Bergazzi near Bardi in the Parma region

Also did you notice that David Bertorelli son of Lazzaro named his daughter Anita
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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby Daisymay69 » 26 Apr 2008, 14:12

thanks, i'll have a look at genes reunited. by the way geography's not my strong point where is this region. is this near rome ?

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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby Daisymay69 » 26 Apr 2008, 14:52

:o - Interesting.
I've just looked in google maps and for those who might want to look further back along the Bertorelli tree, Bergazzi where Lazzaro's family came from is just less than a quarter of a mile away from a village /town called Bertorella.

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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby daisyboo » 01 Feb 2009, 21:11

Daisymay69 wrote::roll:
Hi I'm trying to find out how Beniamino Bertorelli and Lazzarro ( who came to London in the early 1900s) were related. Beniamino's son Armando ( my husbands grandpa) used to spend alot of his time at the Charlotte Street restaurant with Lazzarro's sons. I don't know whether they were Armando's cousins or uncles.
Did Beniamino come to London with Lazzarro? This is the same Beniamino who married Rosmonda Cura.

Also Beniamino and Rosmonda - as well as Armando their son, had 2 daughters , Gioconda and I think Anita but I can't find anything on them. Gioconda moved down to the South of England but I know nothing about Anita.

Please help if you can



Hi,
Lazzaro and Beniamino were brothers in law. Lazzaro was born in London, so did not come to England with Beniamino, he was already was here.
Hope this helps, if there is anything else i can help you with please just ask, and i would love to know where you fit into the family tree.
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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby Daisymay69 » 04 Aug 2009, 18:08

Hi

lazzaro must be a pretty common italian name. I was looking for the connection between Beniamino Bertorelli and the Bertorelli family (Lazzarro beign the head of this family) who own the Bertorelli's restaurants in London . Beniamino used to send his son Armando to the London Charlotte Street restaurant so i know there is a family connection- i don't know how they are connected however.
can anyone help?

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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby Coronation » 25 Oct 2009, 04:30

daisyboo wrote:hi,
a newbie here, hoping someone out there can help me with info on these familys, from italy but some of them moved to the u.k
any help would be great.
thanks all


I am a Grandson of Domenico Cura who lived in Holbourne in London and who died on 18th March 1918.
If You are still seeking information on his family, please feel free to contact me.

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Re: cura, bertani, seghini, bertorelli

Postby Coronation » 25 Oct 2009, 04:39

jcsm400 wrote:1901 census....children are also listed.

Luigi Cura 50 Italy London- Civil Parish: St Andrew & St George-Occupation: Gold & Silver Fish Importer

Margherita Cura 43 Italy London-Civil Parish: St Andrew & St George

jcsm


Hi,
I am a Grandson of Domenico Cura who died in London on 18th of March 1918
His daughter Desolina was my Mother and she came to Australia in 1920.
If you are still interested, please feel free to contact me.


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